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Open Mic Chat

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Category: Emcee Lounge
Forum Name: Open Mic
Forum Description: This isnt a Battle Board, this is for your Freestyle Verses to be Rated by other members.
URL: http://www.lyricalassault.co.uk/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=46156
Printed Date: 06 December 2019 at 4:41pm


Topic: Open Mic Chat
Posted By: Sammy
Subject: Open Mic Chat
Date Posted: 22 September 2018 at 5:17pm
A thread for idol open mic chats. for example:

scenario: you felt your verse was fuego but another guy, lets call him LP said that yo that's Antarctica, bro. You need to step it up.

Then to reply to his nonsense, you'd come in here and be like "look hoe, i don't know what u reading but my shit was straight....




or if you read a verse you like and would like to discuss the details of it, post it in this thread like:

"Yo sammy, you're clearly top 2 on the site, but i'd like for you to show me the way to bring out such visceral images out of something so mundane like felt tip pen. Thanks. And you are my goat"

then i'd be like "well thanks, Cuba. You aint too bad yourself. How i went about doing what u are asking...well first of all..."

Chat, everyone!!


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Replies:
Posted By: Endeavor
Date Posted: 22 September 2018 at 5:21pm
LMAOOOOOOO

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#Bananas



Posted By: Neek
Date Posted: 22 September 2018 at 5:23pm
so you wanna necro fuck ya'll? neat.

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#Bananas


Posted By: Lord Puente
Date Posted: 22 September 2018 at 5:37pm
Hell yea, new fuck y’all thread

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Posted By: Rutter knows best
Date Posted: 22 September 2018 at 5:38pm
might as well call this fuck ya'll 2.o

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#bananas


Posted By: Lord Puente
Date Posted: 22 September 2018 at 5:43pm
I just want to take a moment to say:

Fuck everyone on this site

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Posted By: Sammy
Date Posted: 22 September 2018 at 5:48pm
well i don't want to be an incarnation of another thread. but try this one for size...

"Love Yall Chat"


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Posted By: Neek
Date Posted: 22 September 2018 at 5:50pm
Originally posted by Sammy Sammy wrote:

well i don't want to be an incarnation of another thread. but try this one for size..."Love Yall Chat"



thats just necroing the "big up" thread.. that turned into a lowkey fuck yall.. "bigs up ole bitch ass user988992 for being the hoe he is!"


your thread will become the same.. "I love ya'll hoe ass tendancies.. fucking bitch ass bitches" in no time.


ruttski had it right. fuck yall 2.0

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#Bananas


Posted By: Cuba
Date Posted: 22 September 2018 at 5:51pm
Please be my mentor Sammy, I need to get as many classic verses as you have

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Posted By: daydizzle89
Date Posted: 22 September 2018 at 6:11pm
size matters 



Posted By: Lord Puente
Date Posted: 22 September 2018 at 6:13pm
Fuck dizzle for not giving me a shout out on his last drop! And for his two misspellings

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Posted By: daydizzle89
Date Posted: 22 September 2018 at 6:18pm
Originally posted by Lord Puente Lord Puente wrote:

Fuck dizzle for not giving me a shout out on his last drop! And for his two misspellings

Fuck LP for copping bakardis style


Posted By: Neek
Date Posted: 22 September 2018 at 6:21pm
Originally posted by daydizzle89 daydizzle89 wrote:

Originally posted by Lord Puente Lord Puente wrote:

Fuck dizzle for not giving me a shout out on his last drop! And for his two misspellings

Fuck LP for copping bakardis style


bars.

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#Bananas


Posted By: Rutter knows best
Date Posted: 22 September 2018 at 6:22pm
You do realise flames gonna want an audio fuck ya'll thread now so he can get the indepth feed he longs for...and argue with it.

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#bananas


Posted By: Lord Puente
Date Posted: 22 September 2018 at 6:25pm
Originally posted by Rutter knows best Rutter knows best wrote:

Now DJFames hoe ass gonna want an audio fuck ya'll thread so he can bitch about not getting indepth feed he longs for...and Then moan about it like a howcake

FUCK DJFLAMER


Damn, Ruts back.

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Posted By: DjFlame
Date Posted: 22 September 2018 at 6:26pm
Originally posted by Rutter knows best Rutter knows best wrote:

You do realise flames gonna want an audio fuck ya'll thread now so he can get the indepth feed he longs for...and argue with it.


Literally just trying to get better, somebody says something about something I'm just telling em man. Not arguing with em like I literally didn't know how to annotate the bar.

Some people just ain't as good as you but they want to be. Some people get slept on.


Posted By: Crimson Juice
Date Posted: 22 September 2018 at 6:32pm
lol...pls tell me we don't have to moderate this thread,pls,i'm asking nicely,let it be unsupervised,because I don't want the head ache, and seens it's Sammy's baby,if
it does need to be nodded,let him be the one to do it..peace

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"You need to learn how to make an exit,
before you can dare make an entrance".


Posted By: Cuba
Date Posted: 22 September 2018 at 6:35pm
Crimbo Slice in the building!!

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Posted By: Rutter knows best
Date Posted: 22 September 2018 at 6:36pm
Originally posted by DjFlame DjFlame wrote:

Originally posted by Rutter knows best Rutter knows best wrote:

You do realise flames gonna want an audio fuck ya'll thread now so he can get the indepth feed he longs for...and argue with it.


Literally just trying to get better, somebody says something about something I'm just telling em man. Not arguing with em like I literally didn't know how to annotate the bar.

Some people just ain't as good as you but they want to be. Some people get slept on.


Don't compliment me while I'm being a dick. You'll make me feel bad.

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#bananas


Posted By: Cuba
Date Posted: 22 September 2018 at 6:36pm
Originally posted by Rutter knows best Rutter knows best wrote:

You do realise flames gonna want an audio fuck ya'll thread now so he can get the indepth feed he longs for...and argue with it.


That's straight comickaze bro

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Posted By: Rutter knows best
Date Posted: 22 September 2018 at 6:36pm
Originally posted by Crimson Juice Crimson Juice wrote:

lol...pls tell me we don't have to moderate this thread,pls,i'm asking nicely,let it be unsupervised,because I don't want the head ache, and seens it's Sammy's baby,if
it does need to be nodded,let him be the one to do it..peace


You can do it crim, it's your time to shine.

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#bananas


Posted By: Lord Puente
Date Posted: 22 September 2018 at 6:40pm
Na fuck you crim, stay out of this thread. Sotty said this thread is to be unsupervised

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Posted By: Crimson Juice
Date Posted: 22 September 2018 at 6:41pm
Originally posted by Lord Puente Lord Puente wrote:

Na fuck you crim, stay out of this thread. Sotty said this thread is to be unsupervised



Amen to that brother,phew that was a lucky escape eh..

LP do you mean Scotty?.

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"You need to learn how to make an exit,
before you can dare make an entrance".


Posted By: Endeavor
Date Posted: 22 September 2018 at 7:00pm
No, its Sotty.

I like where this thread lead.

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#Bananas



Posted By: Crimson Juice
Date Posted: 22 September 2018 at 7:07pm
Sootty has a companion,does that make Cuba Sweep or Sue?.

A British quip.

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"You need to learn how to make an exit,
before you can dare make an entrance".


Posted By: daydizzle89
Date Posted: 22 September 2018 at 7:17pm
Originally posted by Crimson Juice Crimson Juice wrote:

lol...pls tell me we don't have to moderate this thread,pls,i'm asking nicely,let it be unsupervised,because I don't want the head ache, and seens it's Sammy's baby,if
it does need to be nodded,let him be the one to do it..peace

Stop being a pushy and go beef someone ur own size. Like axyrocker or barrybonds


Posted By: Crimson Juice
Date Posted: 22 September 2018 at 7:35pm
^lol...Cute.

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"You need to learn how to make an exit,
before you can dare make an entrance".


Posted By: daydizzle89
Date Posted: 22 September 2018 at 8:08pm
this is unsupervised...   hey Rutt. Is this true


Posted By: daydizzle89
Date Posted: 22 September 2018 at 8:12pm
oh by the way. I want to give a huge shout out to nigma. Because like a true social justice warrior.  He has deleted more of my postings than Chain has reported. This site should be named lyrical bathsalts with the amount of pussy eating the mods do.


Posted By: Rutter knows best
Date Posted: 22 September 2018 at 9:03pm
Tbf dizz we have a lot of things to take care of. You are only expected to write material worth reading and you don't even manage that so why do you hold us to such high accountability.

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#bananas


Posted By: Lord Puente
Date Posted: 22 September 2018 at 9:09pm
Originally posted by Rutter knows best Rutter knows best wrote:

Tbf CRIMSON JUICE we have a lot of things to take care of. You are only expected to write material worth reading and you don't even manage that so why do you hold us to such high accountability.



Damn, Rut a savage

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Posted By: Crimson Juice
Date Posted: 22 September 2018 at 9:15pm
LP you know your Trolling gets tiresome right?.

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"You need to learn how to make an exit,
before you can dare make an entrance".


Posted By: Endeavor
Date Posted: 22 September 2018 at 9:18pm
This is how Iran got destabilized in the 60s.

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#Bananas



Posted By: Lord Puente
Date Posted: 22 September 2018 at 9:25pm
Originally posted by Crimson Juice Crimson Juice wrote:

LP you know your Trolling gets tiresome right?.




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Posted By: Ridley Squat
Date Posted: 23 September 2018 at 12:14am
Originally posted by daydizzle89 daydizzle89 wrote:

Stop being a pushy and go beef someone ur own size. Like axyrocker or barrybonds
Dizz got that Sean Connery impersonation game on point tbh.

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Posted By: Ridley Squat
Date Posted: 23 September 2018 at 12:30am
          Fuck y'all / Big up those
            that haven't / that are going to
dropped topic ideas for me and Crim / drop topic ideas for me and Crim

    Bite me / Cheers


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Posted By: daydizzle89
Date Posted: 23 September 2018 at 1:47am
Originally posted by Rutter knows best Rutter knows best wrote:

Tbf dizz we have a lot of things to take care of. You are only expected to write material worth reading and you don't even manage that so why do you hold us to such high accountability.

Gotcha bent again. Double U's all day on ruttz


Posted By: DjFlame
Date Posted: 23 September 2018 at 4:48pm
Yo Smooth no reason to post on my OM just to tell me you're not going to feed it. You said you haven't seen me give back but the feed I gave to Crim was literally everything I would want if someone was giving me feed.

Virtue signalling is cool and all when it isn't so blatantly obvious.


Posted By: Lord Puente
Date Posted: 23 September 2018 at 5:00pm
Originally posted by DjFlame DjFlame wrote:

Yo Smooth you a fucking bitch and it’s blatantly obvious.


Bro LA a fucking war zone right now

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Posted By: Sammy
Date Posted: 23 September 2018 at 10:32pm
well this is going better than i thought lol. i thought mufuckas were gonna shy away from this thread haha

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Posted By: daydizzle89
Date Posted: 24 September 2018 at 1:31am
see how talk is cheap when it's a open venue. Chain got his pusssy flaps inverted 


Posted By: Rutter knows best
Date Posted: 24 September 2018 at 12:15pm
Yeh took the words out of everyone's mouth. We were all just taking about how cheap words are, well in the case of open venues anyway.

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#bananas


Posted By: daydizzle89
Date Posted: 24 September 2018 at 12:17pm
ruttz. Dont you get loud limpy


Posted By: Rutter knows best
Date Posted: 03 October 2018 at 3:03pm
So smooth aye...discuss.

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#bananas


Posted By: Smoothtung
Date Posted: 03 October 2018 at 3:08pm
Wattup


Posted By: Smoothtung
Date Posted: 03 October 2018 at 3:12pm
That concept is mine. And its ok to refine your bars. This whole site is essentially a notepad. It's meant to refine and develope. Its not like I copy and pasted an entire piece of mine. I recalled a couple of my favorite concepts and tried to make them better. Then I went on and built off that with 100% new material. You could not convince me in a hundred years that I'm the only cat on this site that occasionally uses old ideas.


Posted By: Rutter knows best
Date Posted: 03 October 2018 at 3:21pm
All my concepts are from 2020 and later sorry can't agree there.

Sorry though smooth this was more a que to hear others opinions on the matter.




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#bananas


Posted By: Concrete
Date Posted: 03 October 2018 at 3:27pm
I'll give my honest opinion if someone bothers to post up the lines bitten\recycled vs what he posted
I was accused of biting once because I utilized a concept that was used before, its a grey area sometimes, other times its not.. 


Posted By: Rutter knows best
Date Posted: 03 October 2018 at 3:28pm
http://www.lyricalassault.co.uk/forum/bae-ridley-squat-vs-smoothtung_topic46190.html

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#bananas


Posted By: rhetorical
Date Posted: 03 October 2018 at 3:29pm
I got master degree burns 
After a heatstroke of genius

+  

Recycling is not a good look

I have posted old verses, but i put a disclaimer in there saying "this is an old verse" so shit like this dont happen. 

but in a battle, i will not just go grab an old verse and modify it. thats just lazy. oh, and biting is pretty lazy too

you and this kid Dagel i know should hang out one day. 


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Posted By: Smoothtung
Date Posted: 03 October 2018 at 3:30pm
Originally posted by Rutter knows best Rutter knows best wrote:

All my concepts are from 2020 and later sorry can't agree there.




Pretty dope line


Posted By: iLL ScriptureZ
Date Posted: 03 October 2018 at 4:05pm
You recycled the same verse twice on this site alone. Then, used it in a battle, making it three times. "Refined", it's word for word. Maybe I'm from the school of thought where recycling is frowned upon in battles. I thought it went without saying that "no recycling/no biting" was universal. This just shows you were too lazy to come up with something new and/or simply just couldn't. It shows a lack of respect to your opponent and to us as a community. 

Also, you have a bitten line in the verse.

Also, you went above 16 lines. 

All of which are means of disqualification.  


Posted By: Beans
Date Posted: 03 October 2018 at 4:19pm
Originally posted by rhetorical rhetorical wrote:

I got master degree burns 
After a heatstroke of genius

+  

Recycling is not a good look

I have posted old verses, but i put a disclaimer in there saying "this is an old verse" so shit like this dont happen. 

but in a battle, i will not just go grab an old verse and modify it. thats just lazy. oh, and biting is pretty lazy too

you and this kid Dagel i know should hang out one day. 




Lmao

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1-2 Season 1 Final Champ
My lyricism leaves heads spinning like a hamster wheel
I'll shred the skin off of your dick like a banana peel - Noumenon

LMFAO


Posted By: Smoothtung
Date Posted: 03 October 2018 at 4:20pm
It's 16 lines, I format my verses to accentuate the pauses where I want them. And it aint word for word, after refining, the key words were different making a different meaning. The next 8-9 lines are completely brand new. Also i originally started writing this for a regular open Mic drop.

And the line isn't bitten bruh


Posted By: iLL ScriptureZ
Date Posted: 03 October 2018 at 4:23pm
Originally posted by Smoothtung Smoothtung wrote:

It's 16 lines, I format my verses to accentuate the pauses where I want them. And it aint word for word, after refining, the key words were different making a different meaning. The next 8-9 lines are completely brand new. Also i originally started writing this for a regular open Mic drop.

And the line isn't bitten bruh



Posted By: Rutter knows best
Date Posted: 03 October 2018 at 4:26pm
Think of this as an intervention smooth. This is where friends and family get to let you how your biting addiction has hurt and effected them.

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#bananas


Posted By: Smoothtung
Date Posted: 03 October 2018 at 4:28pm
Yea aight guys


Posted By: daydizzle89
Date Posted: 03 October 2018 at 4:33pm
Originally posted by Rutter knows best Rutter knows best wrote:

Think of this as an intervention smooth. This is where friends and family get to let you how your biting addiction has hurt and effected them.


We gonna have one for you and give you the strength to go see a doctor


Posted By: Rutter knows best
Date Posted: 03 October 2018 at 4:35pm
Originally posted by daydizzle89 daydizzle89 wrote:

Originally posted by Rutter knows best Rutter knows best wrote:

Think of this as an intervention smooth. This is where friends and family get to let you how your biting addiction has hurt and effected them.


We gonna have one for you and give you the strength to go see a doctor


What's the worst that can happen.

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#bananas


Posted By: Rutter knows best
Date Posted: 03 October 2018 at 4:49pm
Originally posted by Smoothtung Smoothtung wrote:

Yea aight guys


I'll tell you how it makes me feel... It makes me feel like I can't trust you, as an extension it makes me think the worst of people. It's contagious, it's make me doubt other people. Next minute I'm reading a a dizz line about anal flows ...like is that a rakim line, is that jay electronica...then I have to remind myself...no that's hot garbage, no one else would of wrote that.


There's a ripple effect smooth.

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#bananas


Posted By: Lord Puente
Date Posted: 03 October 2018 at 5:39pm
I think everyone forget the purpose of sammy thread, and that’s not fair to sammy.

On behalf of everyone here....

FUCK YOU SMOOTH

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Posted By: Rutter knows best
Date Posted: 03 October 2018 at 5:47pm
It's what Sammy would of wanted though.

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#bananas


Posted By: Lord Puente
Date Posted: 03 October 2018 at 6:00pm
It’s so sad what happened to sammy. I’m kinda distraught about it. He was a really cool and nice guy with hella talent.

What’s extra crazy is that he was just posting here on LA not that long ago...

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Posted By: Rutter knows best
Date Posted: 03 October 2018 at 6:06pm
Tell me about it. Thoughts and prayers

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#bananas


Posted By: rhetorical
Date Posted: 03 October 2018 at 6:20pm
ill hit Sammy up on Discord and let him know we are all in mourning 

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Posted By: Sammy
Date Posted: 03 October 2018 at 9:17pm
you're all great people. I dedicate my next gym membership sales to yall!

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Posted By: Neek
Date Posted: 03 October 2018 at 9:19pm
Originally posted by Sammy Sammy wrote:

you're all great people. I dedicate my next gym membership sales to yall!


not the phones tho.. sammy like yall can get a pinch of the side hustle. never change sammy.

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#Bananas


Posted By: daydizzle89
Date Posted: 05 October 2018 at 9:49pm
LORD PUENTE IS THE GOD OF GODS


Posted By: Lord Puente
Date Posted: 05 October 2018 at 10:02pm
Thanks broseph

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Posted By: daydizzle89
Date Posted: 05 October 2018 at 10:04pm
Originally posted by Lord Puente Lord Puente wrote:

Thanks broseph


Do you prefer master or LP?


Posted By: daydizzle89
Date Posted: 05 October 2018 at 10:12pm
Originally posted by daydizzle89 daydizzle89 wrote:

Originally posted by Lord Puente Lord Puente wrote:

Thanks broseph


Do you prefer master or LP?


Chain is my best friend


Posted By: Lord Puente
Date Posted: 06 October 2018 at 12:19am
My hammer gone again :(


Posted By: daydizzle89
Date Posted: 06 October 2018 at 1:52am
this is awesome


Posted By: Lord Puente
Date Posted: 06 October 2018 at 3:03am
#FreeLP


Posted By: Beans
Date Posted: 06 October 2018 at 3:44am
Lmao

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1-2 Season 1 Final Champ
My lyricism leaves heads spinning like a hamster wheel
I'll shred the skin off of your dick like a banana peel - Noumenon

LMFAO


Posted By: Cuba
Date Posted: 06 October 2018 at 4:17pm
He's a battle mod now which, as it happens, doesn't allow him to do anything...so no change there then

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Posted By: Lord Puente
Date Posted: 06 October 2018 at 5:02pm
This like having a car but no gas

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Posted By: Cuba
Date Posted: 06 October 2018 at 7:48pm
You gas yourself enough

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Posted By: Sammy
Date Posted: 06 October 2018 at 8:06pm
#bars

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Posted By: DjFlame
Date Posted: 08 October 2018 at 3:35pm
Out of all the things Smooth could've written about, he picked the damn writing process? He never stopped and said *hmm, maybe somebody will say something about this.* Lmao.


Posted By: Smoothtung
Date Posted: 08 October 2018 at 3:42pm
I don't care if you say something about it dizz


Posted By: iLL ScriptureZ
Date Posted: 08 October 2018 at 3:48pm
Originally posted by DjFlame DjFlame wrote:

Out of all the things Smooth could've written about, he picked the damn writing process? He never stopped and said *hmm, maybe somebody will say something about this.* Lmao.

Ouch


Posted By: daydizzle89
Date Posted: 08 October 2018 at 3:57pm
lay off the smack Tung. i didnt even write you. that was DJflame kiddo


Posted By: DjFlame
Date Posted: 08 October 2018 at 3:58pm
Originally posted by Smoothtung Smoothtung wrote:

I don't care if you say something about it dizz


Good news, Dizzle! You've been granted permission to speak!


Posted By: Smoothtung
Date Posted: 08 October 2018 at 4:07pm
You aren't the same guy? My bad


Posted By: DjFlame
Date Posted: 08 October 2018 at 4:16pm
Originally posted by Smoothtung Smoothtung wrote:

You aren't the same guy? My bad


Hmu when you refine this to make it better. I recommend Barry White and Cherry Sprite in candle light.

"He said that.... He read back..... He didn't erase it, no.... He kept that."

Edit: realized you could've got a little hurt over this, I don't want anyone to feel bad for making art, I fed your piece in the OM. I elaborated what I meant by the Barry White thing.


Posted By: DjFlame
Date Posted: 09 October 2018 at 5:24am
Was there not another verse in the WWC contest? I specifically remember it containing the name Debbie but that's it. Don't even know who it was by.


Posted By: Smoothtung
Date Posted: 09 October 2018 at 5:25am
It was neeks verse


Posted By: DjFlame
Date Posted: 09 October 2018 at 5:29am
Originally posted by Smoothtung Smoothtung wrote:

It was neeks verse


Looked fine to me, nothing overly memorable but I don't see why he'd take it down.

Really liked this week's picture btw. I usually find them too abstract to hop on, but I enjoyed writing mine a ton.


Posted By: Smoothtung
Date Posted: 09 October 2018 at 5:40am
Yea I dig it too. Leaves a lot of room for different interpretations.


Posted By: idealizt
Date Posted: 16 October 2018 at 9:18pm
Originally posted by Ness Ness wrote:

@who-is-you? Idealizt???


nah fam. idealizt = idealizt.


Posted By: Sammy
Date Posted: 16 October 2018 at 10:37pm
Originally posted by idealizt idealizt wrote:


Originally posted by Ness Ness wrote:

@who-is-you? Idealizt???



nah fam. idealizt = idealizt.



Awww yeeaaa!! Da homie Idealizt I’m the building! Jump on our next wwc, broham.

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Posted By: Crimson Juice
Date Posted: 17 October 2018 at 4:59pm
Can you believe this shit,my local Council has just given me a £2.500 grant for the
local youths to hit up an outdoor market with spray cans,but wouldn't grant me any
money that i asked for (£1.700) to improve the decor of a local care home!!,what
kind of shit is that,fucking blue collar pricks..smh..err.rant over..

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"You need to learn how to make an exit,
before you can dare make an entrance".


Posted By: iLL ScriptureZ
Date Posted: 17 October 2018 at 5:25pm
Originally posted by Crimson Juice Crimson Juice wrote:

Can you believe this shit,my local Council has just given me a £2.500 grant for the
local youths to hit up an outdoor market with spray cans,but wouldn't grant me any
money that i asked for (£1.700) to improve the decor of a local care home!!,what
kind of shit is that,fucking blue collar pricks..smh..err.rant over..



Posted By: Cuba
Date Posted: 18 October 2018 at 10:30pm
Originally posted by Crimson Juice Crimson Juice wrote:

Can you believe this shit,my local Council has just given me a £2.500 grant for the
local youths to hit up an outdoor market with spray cans,but wouldn't grant me any
money that i asked for (£1.700) to improve the decor of a local care home!!,what
kind of shit is that,fucking blue collar pricks..smh..err.rant over..

I personally cannot believe this...

Why don't you just pay more spray paint than you need and see if any of the yooth are the next Banksy in the care home?

#bars


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Posted By: Xces
Date Posted: 28 October 2018 at 3:02am
I'm definitely not Nigma.  - JS


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Posted By: SINS
Date Posted: 17 November 2018 at 12:11am
Hello.


Posted By: Nigma
Date Posted: 17 November 2018 at 2:19am
Good evening. How are things? Would you like some wings?

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Posted By: SINS
Date Posted: 17 November 2018 at 3:08am
Hello, Nigma. How do I change my avatar, t doesn't work for me apparently. Also, this is AJ The Menace. How are things here? Good to get acquainted by such a student, good work. Keep it going. 


Posted By: Nigma
Date Posted: 17 November 2018 at 4:50am
Did you just call me a student?? Welcome to the site Mr. Menace. 

To change avatar copy image address and paste in the appropriate section in your profile. make sure there is only one set of http at beginning.

If that doesn't work, I know there are some restricted account features until you get enough posts. Try again in the future. Until then, the white light accurately depicts the central theme of everything you write so you can represent it well


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