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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 August 2013 at 8:58pm
2-2, thanks a lot for the breakdown Zin

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 August 2013 at 4:42pm
2-2, bumping for votes
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 August 2013 at 4:55pm
lets get the votes in people so we can finish this dam turney
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 August 2013 at 2:00pm
Hey guys, been at Leeds Festival, haven't been ducking this. Surprised to still see it here, but props for all the votes, either for or against. 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 August 2013 at 10:33pm
Bumping guys! All votes appreciated!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 August 2013 at 8:18am
sorry hectic work schedule right now will vote after work.....5am for me.....ill post though I got you
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 August 2013 at 10:16pm
Zin's vote doesn't add up to 30.5 for DTK & Kiki, it adds up to 27.5 & when you count our verse it adds up to 28.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 August 2013 at 10:19pm
Originally posted by Dougysnuggy Dougysnuggy wrote:

Honestly, I think DTK and KIKI took this. I saw it when I was banned. Pb and cube.. You had some nice lines, and sure DTK had a false personal, but that doesn't take away all the other lines he had in there. Kiki had some nice lines too. I think they did enough to take this. Cube and PB had some mixed up lines in there, but they weren't bad. Keep up guys.


This is not an explained vote...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 August 2013 at 10:21pm
I counted 29.5 for dtk n ki on z's vote cube
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 August 2013 at 10:29pm
With Zins vote its because there's only 7 bar ratings, we dropped 8 bars. This was thrown cuz he rated Keeks first 6 lines in 2 ratings. Basically, we got jipped a rating. Though obviously he still thought we won, and secondly your going to knock Douggys vote? You didn't have fuck all to say about your first vote..it was more vague then Douggys. If your gonna complain at least do it fairly..
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 August 2013 at 11:09pm
I agree Levy's vote wasn't detailed...but he did give a reason (the high points of our verse > any parts of your verse) & that's the required standard: "explained + fair". Whereas babbling & saying "DTK & Keeks did enough to take this" in my eyes is not an expo...it's like saying "I thought they won because they won"
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 August 2013 at 11:14pm
Originally posted by levy420 levy420 wrote:

I counted 29.5 for dtk n ki on z's vote cube


I just recounted it...looks like he rates one of DTK's lines twice @ 3.5 to me, as in, he comments 3.5/5 then gives a one line expo & scores it @ that again...but yeah, like DTK says, he also lumps two sets of Kiki's together...it's a bit of a mess again
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 August 2013 at 11:16pm
This is gonna be open for fucking ages
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 August 2013 at 11:16pm
I will give u guys a propper breakdown tomarrow shit had i known yall didnt think my vote was broke down enough i woulda done one the day after i voted its just way to hard to copy n paste on my samsung androidso i will have to do it on my comp at work . i try to vote quick to get this shit moving i read it like three times before i voted to make sure how i felt about it neways ya if u want ill do a bar to bar brwakdown tomarrow at work. i will admit i had a fucked vote on the cuba dtk match but since then it like each vote i drop theres some sort of problem with it. too many divas not enough men
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 August 2013 at 11:21pm
I'd rather not debate this here & a mod can delete this once Levy's seen it but...

Dude, I think there's a balance...obviously the more established heads know a lot more & therefore can vote more detailed, but I think that as long as a "newbie" doesn't bullshit (I.e. says "your metas were ill" when they didn't have any) then I think your votes should count.

Otherwise you get battles like this that drag on & nobody votes them...so yeah, there is a balance...but that said, I don't think you should take any old shit vote on a battle. That's why mods are supposed to make those decisions...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 August 2013 at 11:46pm
Kiki/DTK

These days P sways like a Hilsborough fence, forgotten to stand better, Point S- P.S with an obsession to 'M like the bottom of Stan's letter,

Decent opener.

His man's a 'bland setter', slow drop, known flop.. Ex champ is no martyr His views hope for Mo' Bots, so I have to beat the Cube like Mo Farah,
Ehhh not feeling this one too much.

A non starter- No title to get docked, and P's free's seem less hot, Sex blocked from their desktop = Couldn't get off soon as the Dress dropped,
Good rhyming, but not feeling the actual content to it tbh.

Let's stop with the bullshit- P has no metal, like I refused to use a piss can, We'll laugh at lack of PC, like ending a gross explosion joke with 'ISLAM!'

Heh again not really feeling it.

Individually murdered you both..add Kiki, the team is fatal!
The only time Cube is coming on Point is when giving Dean a facial!

Pretty childish nameplay tbh, I can see where you're going with whole Cube being on point etc, but you need to make it into more of a complex idea than just some gay reference.

Point, he ain't able! Made the L.I. Rejects, needed his own crew!

Musta been recruiting noobs! Cuz he wouldn't battle with his own dudes!! (True!)

Not bad.

Thirsty for fame! We're a Dukes of Hazard horror remake..General-Lee feared!

Cuba a true champion? How!? He had no title defenses in THREE YEARS!

Not true, so yeah.

Plus he already condemned Point! Let me break it down for folks..

Claimed I dropped subpar? I guess my worst is leaving him clowned for jokes!*

Good idea, poor execution 'clowned for jokes' just doesn't come off as clean sounding.


PB and Cuba

This gay team of homos hate being so-low like KayB in Soho
About to drop a few hits and get forgotten faster than K-Ci and JoJo

Heh, not the greatest opener.

We'll disgrace Keeks it's no joke, and Dress? We know that this guy sucks
Their team has been second to us since the moment they signed up (co-sign bruh!!)

Decent punch.

We're too potent to size up, our words make the whole game change
While Dress is only champ cos the noobs ain't hearda them old nameplays

It's simple, but effective since it does reflect on a lot of comments I've seen towards DTK's battle verses.

I heard LI's 'ride or die' so they on each others genitals quivering
These two pussies grinding on each other more than lesbians scissoring

Not a bad punch again.

The text we're delivering will diminish these faggot's lines
Got Keeks struggling with Dress like auditions for pantomimes

Heh, not the best again.

Cos we're the golden pros with holy flows like hosepipes in churches
You only punch consistently if Manc's around to ghostwrite ya verses

not bad.

And since CJ's deleting every post that's embarrassing ya crew
It won't be long until both your verses are vanishing from view

Probably the best punch out of the entire battle.

And fuck what he said, we didn't need to 'bring our best' to defeat yas
We've brought an end to DK like fuckin dental procedures...

Not a bad closer.



Decent battle, Keeks had the best opener but I felt as the verses went on Keeks and DTK kinda hung around the same level with their verses, and had a few slip ups. Whereas Cuba and Point had a weaker opener, but picked up more as the verse went on and overall came at a consistently higher level. They actually had the more team like verse two, which was clever. The both interchanged, and set up punches for each other. With DTK and Keeks it just felt like two separate battle verses towards two different opponents, which isn't really what a tag tourny should be about. All that, combined with having the best punch of the battle for me makes the decision pretty clear for me.

MVGT/ Point and Cuba.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 August 2013 at 2:58am
I think this battle needed more lines to work with. It's tough to work with only 4 bars each. 

Kiki: I don't think it's a good sign when your expos are almost as long as your verse. Granted, I'm giving you props for coming up with the concepts and thinking outside of the box, but I think you may have went a bit overboard on this one trying to jam pack your 4 bars with as many concepts/hits as possible. It just did not feel as smooth and clean as your other drops as the setups and punches were sometimes disconnected due to you trying to put a separate punch/concept into each line. The opener is a good example. I think the Hillsborough fence concept should've been a bar on its own as it was (potentially) the stronger punch compared to the M/stan concept. The M/stan concept is simply clowning on point for being obsessed with Manc but it is not that aggressive as a diss in the end IMO. Also, the Point S- P.S. was a bit messy probably should've been reworded. The 2nd bar was much better, I liked the Mo Farah play and the setup was very good as well. The 3rd bar could've been killer, but the equal sign and wording ruined it for me. Still, the personal (that dress beat them both) and idea (couldn't get off when dress dropped) was dope. The closer is another example of putting a high concept into the setup and punch that didn't work as well for me. I didn't like the P/metal concept at all. Too much IMO. The punch, however, was solid to me. Funny and an interesting way to go at the PC concept. Overall, I think your verse had the potential to be the best of the battle but a couple of the plays needed to be reworked to work for me.

Dress: Funny opener. Good start. Second bar was another strong bar and still bringing the humor. Third bar fell flat due to obvious reasons but I understand the intent that it might have seemed like he never defended it. The closer could've been dope as the personal was great but the "clowned him for jokes" ruined it for me. Overall, it was a solid verse. It's a shame everyone couldn't get more lines to write with. 

Cuba/Point: I'm just gonna feed all 8 lines as is since that was the way you wrote it and presented it. Opener was a good start. 2nd bar was another good bar although I'm not a fan of those types of bars. The 3rd bar would've been killer if you could've linked or had examples of dress using old nameplays. As is, it's a bit weak to me (although I haven't read to many of Dress' recent battles). The 4th bar was alright to me but the concept is a bit tired and done (at least to me it is). The fifth bar was the best of the battle. Used both opponents in a nice, clean concept. Sixth bar, again, could've been dope with a bit of proof or at least a general opinion that it is happening. As is, it falls flat. The next bar was real good though, well done. Closer was another great bar. Liked the decay play. Overall, I think you had a couple of weak bars which I wouldn't expect (especially the lesbian scissoring one) but you also had a couple of dope bars I came to expect (dress audition, CJ, dk). 


This is a tough one to vote on. Both teams came with a couple of weak bars or bars that I thought fell flat for certain reasons. I think, consistently, Dress/Kiki came with solid lines. However, I think Cuba/Point had the strongest punches of the battle. I think the DK and dress audition bars were the two best bars of the battle followed by Dress'/Kiki's hits (battle with his own dudes, Mo Farah bar). As a result, I think Cuba/Point took this battle by a slim margin. Good stuff all around. Again, it was a shame you each couldn't get more lines to work with.  

V/Point and Cuba
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 August 2013 at 3:16am
do i need to redo my vote? my bad if i fucked up i had to delete all the tags and shit wen i quoted it
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 August 2013 at 3:45am
Nope, it's over.

5-3 Cuba/PB

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 August 2013 at 11:35am
I count 4-2. 

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