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    Posted: 27 November 2020 at 10:33am
   The 2020 Tournament
Round Two: Text (standard rules)
Concrete vs Cuba
Verses are to be 8 bars or 16 lines in length.
Battlers have 14 days from now to write their bars.
If there are no decisive votes on the battle after 7 days
once the verse is posted, then I will vote in an unbiased manner
and decide on the winner to continue to the next round.
If a battler ducks, due to timeframes being accurately adhered to,
if it quacks like a duck and walks like a duck, I'll be calling it a duck.
If you don't both check in
then your battle will be discontinued
and parties that check-in will progress to successive rounds
but parties that fail to check-in will be disqualified.
Battlers must check-in to the battle in order to proceed.
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Concrete can't compete he's a complete joker so let me...
Lay Concrete down and use him as a stepping stone to the semis
He ain't got no flow, how's he gonna dent this immense spitter?!
When my punches leave Concrete spinning like a fucking cement mixer
Syndicate embarrassed of their leader when he gets sonned in three bars
Guess this tourney ain't the only thing run by a retard
Oh wow this has been passed Beans, they might hype him next
Leave this Norwegian Blue like the Monty Python sketch
This a Hobson's choice, you're either ducking or ya smoked
Participating in animal porn's the only way you're fucking with a GOAT
Homie your punches ain't working, should switch to savage memes
Matter fact do us all a favour and stick to magazines
This like Sith to Palpatine! When I'm dropping you're dead
Only time you'll "knock out Cuba" is when Crim is locking the thread
Death Row with the flow, got em shocked with the execution
So times up for this Con, like it was electrocution...
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it's quite cute..

assistant to manager Scott with a tight suite and nice shoes
bitching about site rules like he's LA's own dwight schrute
no ducking here, my text leaves him struck with fear
literally the only ones into cubes... are fucking squares
proud of my viking heritage, doesnt mean I hate brits
me & cuba fam, meaning my ancestors probably raped his
bureaucracy bs, we lost Exo and more who could write lyrics
you definitely killed this bro, you know.. the whole site spirit
thinks Im too fresh to hurt vets, I call that drama unsavory
bring pain across generations like collective trauma by slavery
"I am the King" to himself he finds this great to tell
fuck a ruler - my direct lines sends him straight to hell
whatever his flips be, battling this ancient relic doesnt feel risky
cant trick me, aint nobody nervous about cuba since the sixties
nonchalant, sleeping on concrete like a drunk hobo, I would say
wanna be cold like ice, cube - yet this wont be your good day
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Heavyweight clash lets gooo..

Cuba//

Solid opener, multies, Stepping Stone persie that made a strong punch.

I’m personally not a fan of self hype but the cement mixer punch was hardd.

Solid set up and punch in the third, even managed to catch RT with a stray jab.

Fourth bar worked but did nothing for me.

Solid set up and punch in the fifth.

Sixth flowed really nice and the punch was there just nothing real damaging.

Crim closing thread is played and took away from a nice set up.

Closer was hardd. My favourite bar.

Overall// A genuine contender and a clear veteran of the game. Some outstanding bars but also a couple that lacked real ooompth.

Con//

Again, straight in swinging with the opener. Multies made this flow delightfully.

Your second was aaight but it felt like you were attacking people that like Cubes drops rather than Cube himself.

Jeeez third was ruthless, you damn right nasty bro. Hardest bar of the battle. Not the most creative or witty but just the most brutal. Jeeez.

Love how the set up links ya fourth bar in. It came across as when someone says “I’m not angry, I’m just disappointed in you” loool.

Jeez going in on the ethnical angle. Pulled it off, hardd punch.

Your sixth bar for me was the first time you let off his throat. No real damage there.

Flow was solid in the seventh and the Cuba play was executed cleanly.

Closer was a little loose for me, set up was solid but the Ice Cube was borderline forced, just felt off.

Overall// Another solid drop, showing a real ruthlessness. Again a couple bars that weren’t quite up to scratch as the rest but overall a real enjoyable read.

Vote// - This was close as hell. Both 6/8 hard hitting punches going blow for blow. Both have an elite understanding of constructing a battle verse. I’ll be honest, before I read the verses, I thought Cuba would take this battle. I think Cuba had the cleverest plays but I’m going for Concrete for his pure savagery.

Vote - Concrete.
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Cuba

Concrete can't compete he's a complete joker so let me...
Lay Concrete down and use him as a stepping stone to the semis

(Nice start, more of a personal than a full blown haymaker, with the slant of using his
OM and alias, but it was clean and tidy and current seens as his OM is still riding
high in the OM section)

He ain't got no flow, how's he gonna dent this immense spitter?!
When my punches leave Concrete spinning like a fucking cement mixer

(Aggression was there as to the simile, seemed a little stale though as it kind of felt
expected/predictable, but hey you got to work with what you have right!, still I haven't
directly read that angle as per say,. so atleast it had an original vibe about it, so yeah
cool punch)

Syndicate embarrassed of their leader when he gets sonned in three bars
Guess this tourney ain't the only thing run by a retard

(hmm as it stands it's ok and all, but it does lack bite, bit puzzled with the 3 bar bit
though, it was statement-ish via the personal thrown via his crew, but strangely it still
worked, and poor Rapper T keeps being referenced I've noticed)

Oh wow this has been passed Beans, they might hype him next
Leave this Norwegian Blue like the Monty Python sketch

(lol..I liked this bar as I've seen that sketch, with the parrot, again nothing to heavy and
again it just works via the comedy value,plus as a personal goes it's relatable due to his
nationality)

This a Hobson's choice, you're either ducking or ya smoked
Participating in animal porn's the only way you're fucking with a GOAT

(Nice bar I liked it, no beating round the bush just straight in your face and humourous,
and to an extent you even had comparisons via duck- ing/GOAT, inclusion )

Homie your punches ain't working, should switch to savage memes
Matter fact do us all a favour and stick to magazines

(Going the clowning route here, light but it still carrys merit, I will add at this point every
bar is flowing well, there's no break in the tempo which I'm feeling)

This like Sith to Palpatine! When I'm dropping you're dead
Only time you'll "knock out Cuba" is when Crim is locking the thread

(lol...cute, this did make me smirk as you know I got grief in the T2T thread about a
votes, plus with it being current just added a level to the punch, cool bar)

Death Row with the flow, got em shocked with the execution
So times up for this Con, like it was electrocution...

(Now this was clever, w/play within w/play kind of a double entendre in essence, Con
as in criminal and alias, death row/flow which is what electricity does/record label, nice
closing bar good ounch)



Concrete

it's quite cute..

assistant to manager Scott with a tight suite and nice shoes
bitching about site rules like he's LA's own dwight schrute

(lively opener this, made me snigger on reading because the anology was so cool, in a twisted
way it bore some solid resemblance to LA's hierarchy which is why the punch landed well,real
nice start)

no ducking here, my text leaves him struck with fear
literally the only ones into cubes... are fucking squares

(This was a very loose flip on one of his (Cuba's) bars with the ducking reference, it did feel
light as punches go but it does carry weight via the personal entow on his alias)

proud of my viking heritage, doesnt mean I hate brits
me & cuba fam, meaning my ancestors probably raped his

(whoa, now this was solid, I really liked this bar for the humour aspect, plus it's loose historical
fact, it also had this slant of stay in ya place bitch and remember that ..solid bar)

bureaucracy bs, we lost Exo and more who could write lyrics
you definitely killed this bro, you know.. the whole site spirit

(Ok I know what you was aiming for here, and in parts it kind of worked, but Cubes wasn't the
only one running Exo/Beans at the time for that battle Fiasco, still had a place within your
verse at it was relatable still)

thinks Im too fresh to hurt vets, I call that drama unsavory
bring pain across generations like collective trauma by slavery

(Although i liked the bar itself, it did come with a filler sort of vibe etched in, but it was still
a cool filler at that)

"I am the King" to himself he finds this great to tell
fuck a ruler - my direct lines sends him straight to hell

(not feeling this one, came off as generic for me)

whatever his flips be, battling this ancient relic doesnt feel risky
cant trick me, aint nobody nervous about cuba since the sixties

(lol..back to the punches again, this also had that lol factor within, not so much aggressive
but the mellow tone just lifted this up in my opinion, gave the impression that your toying
with him)

nonchalant, sleeping on concrete like a drunk hobo, I would say
wanna be cold like ice, cube - yet this wont be your good day

(Liked the double play on his alias seens his old alias was IceC and shit, although
relevant the ending did read a little under whelming with the good day play on Ice
Cubes track, the weight in this bar lies with the concept than the actual punch I feel,
and that was cool)



So this was a real nice battle, in some ways a slug fest via the punches thrown by both,
on the personal front again both brought it, as much as it pains me to call a winner as i
thought it was a close affair really, but Cuba did make a prediction of sorts and it's a
shame as i can see it coming to fruition...


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Good looking out gents!
This was a great battle.

1. I'm going to break it down scientifically.

Bar 1 = Cuba

The bar was more complex and it used a relevant personal jab.
Concrete was just warming up on this one.


Bar 2 = Cuba

Top tier writing. Battle rap 101. Simple but effective.
Concrete is still warming up. Dope bar though.


Bar 3 = Concrete

That bar was a monster. Hard AF.
Cuba fell asleep at the wheel with this one.


Bar 4 = Cuba

Both were light but I felt Cuba's bar was wittier.
@Concrete; Exo left on his own terms lol.


Bar 5 = Cuba

@Concrete; that bar would've been a K.O bar if used against me
. But I don't think this hurts Cuba.

Bar 6 = Cuba

lol both of yall lollygagging.
But I had to give this bar to Cuba cause it contained sonewhat of a personal, Concrete's bar did too but it read like filler. You're way better than this.

Bar 7 = Concrete

Shieeeet, that was slick as fuck. Loved it. Dassss a bar!

Bar 8 = Cuba

Masterful

@Concrete; that was a waste of a dope ass set up. lol
Telling somebody they won't have a good day is the most polite insult I ever heard.
Super British of you.

2. Now I'm going to speak from the heart.
Even though Cuba scored more points, Concrete's verse felt harder and more urgent to me. But...the bar score is 6-2.

Bar score. I just made up a new thing. Thank me later*

So MVGT Cuba


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I read these two verses a few times since the drop and I thought they were both great battle verses. You know I also really wanted to say that Concrete had won this cos I mean of his stats and his progress past the first round but idk what it was, whether it was the pressure of having Cuba drop so fast or what but I honestly felt like Concrete's verse just didn't connect as a text battle stanza in the same way as Cuba's, and I'll try to explain why that was for me;

Like while a majority of Concrete's verse was a personal about Cuba's race, I didn't feel it connect directly like to break down the verse, this is what was said to Cuba:

- He's assistant to the owner and wears a tight suit with nice shoes
- He bitches about site rules like the guy on The Office
- He's struck with fear and squares like him
- He killed the site spirit
- He thinks Concrete is too fresh
- He says he is a king
- He can't trick Concrete
- He's sleeping on Concrete
- He's an ancient relic
- People were nervous about him in the 60s (during a revolution)
- He wants to be cold like ice and it won't be his good day
- He wants to be cold like Ice Cube

And this was Concrete bragging about himself:

- He doesn't duck (chur)
- He's proud of his viking heritage
- His ancestors probably raped Cuba's
- He calls drama unsavoury
- He brings pain across generations
- His direct lines send Cuba straight to hell
- Battling Cuba doesn't feel risky

Like I see the angle and that being weighted heavily on ethnicity and while some of the punches were kinda funny for like semi-connected themes between the filler and the punch, while the verse was racy, it didn't connect hard for me. The 'cubes into squares' and 'into cuba since the sixties' were kinda funny but idk overall it felt like there wasn't much effort or something that went into this verse cos in comparison to break down Cubas in the same fashion, what he said about Concrete:

- He can't compete he's a complete joker
- He gets laid down and used as a stepping stone for Cuba to the semis
- He ain't got no flow
- Syndicate are embarrassed of him
- He gets sonned in three bars
- He's a retard
- He's been past Beans and might be hyped
- He's been left blue like Norwegian Blue, a Monty Python sketch about a dead parrot
- If he participates in the battle he'll be smoked if he doesn't duck
- He may participate in animal porn
- His punches aren't working and he should stick to savage memes and magazines
- He's dead when Cuba drops
- Palpatine
- He'll only knock out Cuba if Troy locks the thread
- He's shocked at the execution
- He's a con getting electrocuted

And these were Cuba's braggadocio elements:

- He's an immense spitter
- Punches leave Concrete spinning like a cement mixer
- He's a GOAT
- Sith
- Death row with the flow

I'm guessing Concrete is Norwegian which might be why he went in so hard on the race thing but those Norwegian blue/spinning like a cement mixer/con executed/I'm a retard/Crim locks the thread punches were probably the funniest for me of the battle and while Concrete had some punches that didn't connect as well and it was kinda close for me in terms of brutality only cos Cuba didn't have much but he had enough cos Concrete didn't have much that was direct at all. While Concrete had a mean flow going on, I preferred the looseness of the style that Cuba crafted personally in the way that the syllabic structure of the piece ran together. In fact the block style of Concretes verse was ironic for me considering he said that people that like Cuba are squares and the stanza spat was in a blockstyle.

So yeah, maybe in the haste to spit out a verse even with a 14 day timeframe after Cuba dropped quick smart, Concrete's verse felt rushed and while Cuba's verse seemed imperfect stylistically it just had better ideas carved out in it for me that were more direct about Concrete and not necessarily just based around his lineage but there was some funny shit in both and the schemes were both on point like there's no faulting the multis although I personally would have liked to have seen more inner rhymes in the scheme though both verses worked with few, more multisyllabic rhymes from Concrete, and tighter multis from Cuba in parts. I liked in places where assonance was used and not just alliteration but after thinking about it for a while:

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Concrete can't compete he's a complete joker so let me...
Lay Concrete down and use him as a stepping stone to the semis

-this was a dope opener/personal


He ain't got no flow, how's he gonna dent this immense spitter?!
When my punches leave Concrete spinning like a fucking cement mixer

-this was cool... nothing crazy



Syndicate embarrassed of their leader when he gets sonned in three bars
Guess this tourney ain't the only thing run by a retard


-no... lazy bar

Oh wow this has been passed Beans, they might hype him next
Leave this Norwegian Blue like the Monty Python sketch

-this could have been dope if worded harsher

This a Hobson's choice, you're either ducking or ya smoked
Participating in animal porn's the only way you're fucking with a GOAT

-LMFAO... played as fuck bro you should know better

Homie your punches ain't working, should switch to savage memes
Matter fact do us all a favour and stick to magazines

-No real punch here


This like Sith to Palpatine! When I'm dropping you're dead
Only time you'll "knock out Cuba" is when Crim is locking the thread

-eh... nah man

Death Row with the flow, got em shocked with the execution
So times up for this Con, like it was electrocution...

-lazy fucking bar here..

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assistant to manager Scott with a tight suite and nice shoes
bitching about site rules like he's LA's own dwight schrute

-Decent opener. Funny context

no ducking here, my text leaves him struck with fear
literally the only ones into cubes... are fucking squares

-slant rhyme kinda a reach but I’ll give it to you. Basic punch but hit

proud of my viking heritage, doesnt mean I hate brits
me & cuba fam, meaning my ancestors probably raped his

-Should have left out “probably” to make it harsher but this was dope

bureaucracy bs, we lost Exo and more who could write lyrics
you definitely killed this bro, you know.. the whole site spirit

-Lol facts... basic punch though

thinks Im too fresh to hurt vets, I call that drama unsavory
bring pain across generations like collective trauma by slavery

-cool punch.

"I am the King" to himself he finds this great to tell
fuck a ruler - my direct lines sends him straight to hell

-liked this... witty

whatever his flips be, battling this ancient relic doesnt feel risky
cant trick me, aint nobody nervous about cuba since the sixties

-meh... played on him

nonchalant, sleeping on concrete like a drunk hobo, I would say
wanna be cold like ice, cube - yet this wont be your good day

-I’m sure this concept been done on him. This was decent at best


Cuba had a few bangers and a minority of lazy played bars. Con had some misses but I got him with more quotables. Also his misses were harder

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Concrete can't compete he's a complete joker so let me...
Lay Concrete down and use him as a stepping stone to the semis
**The punch was decent but the "let me/semi" part felt a bit forced. 'Lemme' woulda fit better. And we all say it so woulda been no accent-barrier issues (if that makes sense**

He ain't got no flow, how's he gonna dent this immense spitter?!
When my punches leave Concrete spinning like a fucking cement mixer
**Decent punch & set-up. Clever & well worked**

Syndicate embarrassed of their leader when he gets sonned in three bars
Guess this tourney ain't the only thing run by a retard
**Not too strong of a punch but this flowed smooth to the point of where I personally felt like it made up for the lack of power**

Oh wow this has been passed Beans, they might hype him next
Leave this Norwegian Blue like the Monty Python sketch
**Again, well worked. Wording was spot on. The best punch so far**

This a Hobson's choice, you're either ducking or ya smoked
Participating in animal porn's the only way you're fucking with a GOAT
**Had to Google 'hobsons choice' if I'm being honest. Didn't wanna be like, I didn't get it therefor it was shit - so a benefit of the doubt typea thing. Still though, wasn't keen on the punch. Didn't quite make sense. Are you saying youre a GOAT? If so, it was contradictory - cuz you're saying he aint fuckin with you, when in fact he is, cuz he's battling you. Have I mis-read it? Fuck knows. But it didn't feel like enough of a stinger to me*

Homie your punches ain't working, should switch to savage memes
Matter fact do us all a favour and stick to magazines
**I feel like my time away from here is why this punch made no sense to me, so I'll disregard this bit. Doesn't feel fair to judge what looks like a decent personal, just cuz I don't know the background**

This like Sith to Palpatine! When I'm dropping you're dead
Only time you'll "knock out Cuba" is when Crim is locking the thread
**Liked this one. Nice hit**

Death Row with the flow, got em shocked with the execution
So times up for this Con, like it was electrocution..
**Decent closer. Wordplay was good & the set-up meshed with it well**




it's quite cute..

assistant to manager Scott with a tight suite and nice shoes
bitching about site rules like he's LA's own dwight schrute
**My kind of opener. Technical. Worded well. Nice internal rhymes. Hit the spot!**

no ducking here, my text leaves him struck with fear
literally the only ones into cubes... are fucking squares
**This was ok but I felt like that first line woulda come off better flipped around. My text leaves him struck with fear, no ducking hear. Just felt smoother that way & rolled off the tongue better. Still though, decent punch & good humour**

proud of my viking heritage, doesnt mean I hate brits
me & cuba fam, meaning my ancestors probably raped his
**Shock horror!! Off with his head!!! Haha. Nah, that was pretty good. I don't feel like its as strong as the first 2 bars, but not far off to be fair**

bureaucracy bs, we lost Exo and more who could write lyrics
you definitely killed this bro, you know.. the whole site spirit
**Nice personal hit. Again, good humour too**

thinks Im too fresh to hurt vets, I call that drama unsavory
bring pain across generations like collective trauma by slavery
**Wowzers! That was a nice end to the bar. A big jump away from the punch theme you've done upto now, to a bravado type bar - but nice none-the-less. Felt like you coulda made it into more of a personal punch though. Was a decent filler bar imo**

"I am the King" to himself he finds this great to tell
fuck a ruler - my direct lines sends him straight to hell
**This was clever. Liked it a lot despite the simplicity. Ruler/direct lines/straight - original**

whatever his flips be, battling this ancient relic doesnt feel risky
cant trick me, aint nobody nervous about cuba since the sixties
**LOL stupid line, but my favourite upto now. Not the best one, but I felt like this was an obvious angle to take yet you worked it well. Whatever floats ya boat I supose**

nonchalant, sleeping on concrete like a drunk hobo, I would say
wanna be cold like ice, cube - yet this wont be your good day
**Pretty disapointed with this as the reader. I feel like it was your least powerful punch, yet it shouldve been the strongest. Always close em with a lasting impression**



So, last time I was active here, Concrete wasn't anywhere near as good as this. HUGE improvements have been made in that time. That doesn't sway my vote though, but just wanted to say I'm impressed with your progress.
I found myself feeling like Cubas verse was decent, but not an obvious winner. Thats not to it wasn't good, but it seemed a bit tame compared to Concretes. Felt like Concrete had more that hit harder than Cubas did. I genuinely couldn't even call it a close bout really, which has surprised me. When I saw the title, I expected a cake-walk for Cuba.

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A win for Concrete, nice battle...
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