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    Posted: 13 January 2017 at 7:59pm
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Topic = Pick any one of the five images here (posting your chosen image BEFORE your verse)
Deadline = Midnight, TWO weeks from today

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Met a Morph is ISS



Met a Morph Iz Ess


The loop is infinite


Caterpillar


It all starts with a thought, a goal, or a challenge

Molding the youth that’s bestowed from the fountain

Stoned as a rock? I’m a boulder or mountain

An omen, it’s out like they stole it, I found it

Overcasts roaming, wage war while the blades hot

Brainstorm to raise crops that soar as the rain drops

To be an active killer? Not my main culture, Adolf!

But I can spawn a baby concept that takes off

No added filler but, wait… naw….

A blade of grass is a pasture for a caterpillar

Strain to reach the basic needs and stash your fill

Did I make that change of schemes a tad bit brittle?

My bad, I’m dribble drabbing, just filled with antics

Sometimes, in my mind I’m just a little gaffer

After this quick lesson we will build the chapter

Fufill the rapture. ____________ I’ll fill this after.


Practice with me. Aid ya, tayta, dayda

Remember Dayda

HEY EXO, you put the cock in cocoons brah

Cocoons!!!!

Uh

It’s hard

What’s hard? Is tryna write when your brain wont save data ;)

Most of my greatest lines never made it to paper

Inflamed with frustration when one fades into vapour

When my craniums eye is seeing blank for an acre

Still,

The way that I create shit with this confidence amazing

So binders are my backbone cause these concepts my foundation

Marijuana’s what’s injected to provide this rhythm

Spires are spinning to inspire my writtens

Designs get imprinted, my minds matching mission

Wires to switches as the synapses clickin

Find the virus’ hidden inside us and fix them


Butterfly

They say wisdom is infinite, is it fiction? Yes, but

Theres millions and millions of tiny thin specks

They live within skin, flesh, and have been meshed

In the most important organ stored within your inner chest

In this depiction, heart is hidden.

It’s important but only the start position for art and wisdom.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 January 2017 at 8:06pm
Let's Shake On It.



You know we all had a hand in this,
Squeeze for release 'til you can't stand the cist,
Panda shit - A finger tip from ending,
Palm it off, now your finger grip is bending,
In the skip for friends 'n pick cunts,
We're hitting nuke switches with fist bumps,
Sick chumps grab at what comes shut,
You all just knuckle down for a thumbs up,
Dumb luck if you miss the history cut,
Only there if you're listed in the fisty cuffs,
Mystery fucked, secrets let crime thrive,
This new wave of political high fives,
My rise, arm wrapped in a black band,
Turned the other cheek to a back hand,
This crap land fell, dumping the flair,
Pushed by runts stuck punching the air..

Then fists started crumbling,
Done. Every son stumbling,
Run. Hear a drum rumbling..
Then fists stopped reaching,
Preach. Teachers screeching,
Leech. Each low life beaching.

Now you hang and swing cos you couldn't stand the thing,
Rang the kings, but then there wasn't a man to sing,
So clench 'til you smell the stench from the French Revolution,
Can't bench the hell of wrenching with tense elocution.

We're fans for now,
Mankind now has hand-me-downs.



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Nigma:
Met a Morph Iz Ess

The loop is infinite


Caterpillar


It all starts with a thought, a goal, or a challenge

Molding the youth that’s bestowed from the fountain

Stoned as a rock? I’m a boulder or mountain

An omen, it’s out like they stole it, I found it

Overcasts roaming, wage war while the blades hot

Brainstorm to raise crops that soar as the rain drops

To be an active killer? Not my main culture, Adolf!

But I can spawn a baby concept that takes off

No added filler but, wait… naw….

Raw opener..... Very creative, taking a different approach to the picture, and nicely done might I add..... The flow is excellent, multies were on point..... Nice start to this story.....

A blade of grass is a pasture for a caterpillar

Strain to reach the basic needs and stash your fill

Did I make that change of schemes a tad bit brittle?

My bad, I’m dribble drabbing, just filled with antics

Sometimes, in my mind I’m just a little gaffer

After this quick lesson we will build the chapter

Fufill the rapture. ____________ I’ll fill this after.

Wow, this is very impressive...... The set up and delivery is on point, making this verse pop, stand out above the average verse..... Nice imagination, very creative work here......

Practice with me. Aid ya, tayta, dayda

Remember Dayda

HEY EXO, you put the cock in cocoons brah

Cocoons!!!!

Uh

It’s hard

What’s hard? Is tryna write when your brain wont save data ;)

Most of my greatest lines never made it to paper

Inflamed with frustration when one fades into vapour

When my craniums eye is seeing blank for an acre

Still,

The way that I create shit with this confidence amazing

So binders are my backbone cause these concepts my foundation

Marijuana’s what’s injected to provide this rhythm

Spires are spinning to inspire my writtens

Designs get imprinted, my minds matching mission

Wires to switches as the synapses clickin

Find the virus’ hidden inside us and fix them

Creativity is excellent, the imagery is also on point...... Your flow is just unstopable..... This was the best section of the verse..... Great work man, really enjoying this story so far.....

Butterfly

They say wisdom is infinite, is it fiction? Yes, but

Theres millions and millions of tiny thin specks

They live within skin, flesh, and have been meshed

In the most important organ stored within your inner chest

In this depiction, heart is hidden.

It’s important but only the start position for art and wisdom.
Great ending, way to show the caterpillar grow and develope into a butterfly..... The imagination and creativity here was excellent, a great ending....

Overall this was a dope drop...... This entire verse had me on the edge of my seat enjoying every line, every twist, and every turn to the entire story..... I can see by reading this verse why you are the topical champion..... This story was an excellent read from start to finish..... Your flow was immaculate, good use of multies, and great wording...... This was very creative and you showed wonderful imagination...... This was probably the best verse of the week that I have read so far...... Glad to see you back in the league, hope you stay in, because I definately enjoyed reading your verse, start to finish...... Great work.....


KiKi:
You know we all had a hand in this, 
Squeeze for release 'til you can't stand the cist,
Panda shit - A finger tip from ending, 
Palm it off, now your finger grip is bending, 
In the skip for friends 'n pick cunts, 
We're hitting nuke switches with fist bumps,
Sick chumps grab at what comes shut, 
You all just knuckle down for a thumbs up, 
Dumb luck if you miss the history cut, 
Only there if you're listed in the fisty cuffs, 
Mystery fucked, secrets let crime thrive, 
This new wave of political high fives, 
My rise, arm wrapped in a black band,
Turned the other cheek to a back hand, 
This crap land fell, dumping the flair, 
Pushed by runts stuck punching the air.. 
Nice start, enjoying the route your taking on the picture...... Short simple lines, but enjoyable and affective..... Good opener.....
Then fists started crumbling, 
Done. Every son stumbling, 
Run. Hear a drum rumbling.. 
Then fists stopped reaching, 
Preach. Teachers screeching, 
Leech. Each low life beaching. 
Okay, this was quick short lines, but again affective..... To the point and following the story topic well..... a nice little poetic section to this verse.....
Now you hang and swing cos you couldn't stand the thing, 
Rang the kings, but then there wasn't a man to sing, 
So clench 'til you smell the stench from the French Revolution, 
Can't bench the hell of wrenching with tense elocution.

We're fans for now, 
Mankind now has hand-me-downs.
Decent ender..... Yet I feel it kind of fell slightly off compared to the rest of the verse..... I just felt you should have ended this a better way..... Didn't really seem like the proper ending to the verse.....

Overall a great verse..... Good job on story telling and using different forms of writing throughout the verse..... I enjoyed the switch up, very creative and enjoyable......  Your flow was great, good use of multies when you decided to use some......  This was definately a creative piece, and very imaginative...... My only issue with the verse was how you chose to end it...... I feel you should have went a different route with the closing and had you done so could have had a lot better of a result to the overall verse...... I still enjoyed it from start to finish, just felt your ending could have been polished better...... Still a very enjoyable read and you done a great job, good verse homie......


Vote- Nigma

My reason for going with Nigma on this battle was simply because his verse was excellent in every way..... He came creative, showed great imagery, the flow was on point throughout..... Every bit of his verse was flawless, no complaints.......  Kiki also dropped a dope verse, but the issue I had was the way it ended, I just don't feel like the end was good enough.....  The verse was excellent...... The switching of writing style throughout the verse was dope..... Had the ending come out better I feel this battle would have been very difficult to chose a winner...... This was by far the best battle in this week......  Both verses were raw, and you both came hard...... Great work both of you...... Very enjoyable battle and I would love to see a rematch between you two somewhere down the line...... Great work you guys!!!
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ok lets see
im not going to do a big break down with this vote 
as its pretty clear to me when i read these verses that i know who the winner is

so nigma i honestly expected alot more from you bro
your verse was all over the place filled with filler and antics
dont get me wrong the rhymes were dope and you had some decent humour 
but the whole thing felt far from focused 
and the last section felt out of place bro

and kiki


In the skip for friends 'n pick cunts, 
We're hitting nuke switches with fist bumps,

wtf man lol ^ that was dope
and it continued on pretty much the whole way
the flow was bonkers 
coming hand over fist with each line all connecting so well and you did a great job using the pic you chose

kikis verse was easy to follow flowed much better 
hands down the better verse

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inner demon violent beast so
warn the mother fucking people
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NIG MAMA
HAD A COUPLE OF READS ON THIS NUMBER, WTF ARE YOU EVEN FUCKING SAYING HERE BRO?
I'm THINKING SURELY ONLY YOU CAN BE SURE!
Met a Morph Iz Ess

The loop is infinite

Caterpillar

OPENING UP AND ITS BUGGING ME ALREADY! AND THAT'S ALSO A WORDPLAY based comment! I FEEL LIKE I NEED TO EXPO POINT THAT OUT AT THIS STAGE!
..,..........

It all starts with a thought, a goal, or a challenge
Molding the youth that’s bestowed from the fountain
Stoned as a rock? I’m a boulder or mountain
An omen, it’s out like they stole it, I found it
Overcasts roaming, wage war while the blades hot
Brainstorm to raise crops that soar as the rain drops
To be an active killer? Not my main culture, Adolf!
But I can spawn a baby concept that takes off
No added filler but, wait… naw….
A blade of grass is a pasture for a caterpillar

SO FOR ME SOME OF THE RHYMING STANDS OUT AS DOPE, YOU FORCE PEOPLE TO WORK TOO HARD TO FIND THE SCHEME, A VERSE LIKE THIS WILL NEVER FLOW EASY FOR MOST READERS!
SO I FOUND THE SCHEME AND BANG THE READER HITS ANOTHER WALL, WHAT ARE YOU SAYING HERE!? THAT GOTTA BE TRUE FOR MOST READERS BRO
IF I SHIT MYSELF FOR TWO HOURS STRAIGHT I CAN VAGUELY MOLD THE SHIT INTO SOME KIND OF MEANING! BUT Fuck that
.................


Strain to reach the basic needs and stash your fill
Did I make that change of schemes a tad bit brittle?
My bad, I’m dribble drabbing, just filled with antics
Sometimes, in my mind I’m just a little gaffer
After this quick lesson we will build the chapter
Fufill the rapture. ____________ I’ll fill this after.

YOU ARE JUST FUCKING INDULGING YOURSELF NOW YOU DELIVERED WITH THE RHYMING ON THAT SECTION IT WAS A NICE FLOW; BUT PLEASE NIG SURELY YOU ARE JUST TRYING TO MUG OFF THE SHEEP WITH THIS GIBBERISH?
........... . 


Practice with me. Aid ya, tayta, dayda
Remember Dayda
HEY EXO, you put the cock in cocoons brah
Cocoons!!!!
Uh
It’s hard
What’s hard? Is tryna write when your brain wont save data ;)
Most of my greatest lines never made it to paper
Inflamed with frustration when one fades into vapour
When my craniums eye is seeing blank for an acre

JUST WENT SPAS FOR A MINUTE HERE? YOU ARE GONE NOWHERE WITH THAT, EVEN RUINED THE ILLUSION THAT YOU WAS GOING ANYWHERE ANYWAY
ANYWAY ANYWAY ANYTHING? NOPE... ..
............


Still,
The way that I create shit with this confidence amazing
So binders are my backbone cause these concepts my foundation
Marijuana’s what’s injected to provide this rhythm
Spires are spinning to inspire my writtens
Designs get imprinted, my minds matching mission
Wires to switches as the synapses clickin
Find the virus’ hidden inside us and fix them

Fuck FUCK, MAYBE YOU GOT SUNFIN HERE
BUT I AIN'T EVEN GONNA SAY IENJOY THE THING
I REFUSE TO BE MADE TO WORK SO HARD FOR SO LITTLE REWARD
THIS IS NOT WHAT I THINK THIS WEBSITE SHOULD BE ABOUT
SURE YOU CAN DO YOU BUT I'M HERE TO DO ME


Butterfly
They say wisdom is infinite, is it fiction? Yes, but
Theres millions and millions of tiny thin specks
They live within skin, flesh, and have been meshed
In the most important organ stored within your inner chest
In this depiction, heart is hidden.
It’s important but only the start position for art and wisdom.

BUTTERFLY GET A RAW Deal bro
It's flight I guess but will never be hip hop cultured enough for me to enjoy





Kiki
SO I AIN'T EVEN GONNA GIVE YOU AN INCH MAN
NIG JUST GOT ME FIRED UP PROPERLY
THIS shit better deliver
.........
.


You know we all had a hand in this, 
Squeeze for release 'til you can't stand the cist,
Panda shit - A finger tip from ending, 
Palm it off, now your finger grip is bending, 

PANDA PLAYS, BUT WHATEVER MAN YOU GOT THE FLOW, YOU STRAIGHT IN WITH THE WORDPLAY ITS TRADITIONAL STYLE! SO YOU GOT MY ATTENTION
BUT TRUST I ALREADY SUSPECT THAT ALMOST TRADEMARKS FORCED MULTIS GAME THAT YOU NEED TO STOP FLEXING WILL DOMINATE THIS WORK?
...........
In the skip for friends 'n pick cunts, 
We're hitting nuke switches with fist bumps,
Sick chumps grab at what comes shut, 
You all just knuckle down for a thumbs up, 

COMES SHUT? THUMBS UP
I SEE GOOD ATTEMPTS AT PLAYS ON THE HAND IN THE PIC, BUT ZERO EFFORT TO FLESH OUT ANY KIND OF NARRATIVE
SO I FEEL A BIT SHORT-CHANGED HERE!
..........

Dumb luck if you miss the history cut, 
Only there if you're listed in the fisty cuffs, 
Mystery fucked, secrets let crime thrive, 
This new wave of political high fives, 

I DO GET THE CONTINUED VIBE THOUGH AND THE PLAY'S ON THE HAND ARE WORKING IN THE BACKGROUND AND WORKING WELL TBH 
............

My rise, arm wrapped in a black band,
Turned the other cheek to a back hand, 
This crap land fell, dumping the flair, 
Pushed by runts stuck punching the air.. 

Then fists started crumbling, 
Done. Every son stumbling, 
Run. Hear a drum rumbling.. 
Then fists stopped reaching, 
Preach. Teachers screeching, 
Leech. Each low life beaching. 

THAT SECTION HAD NOTHING
......

Now you hang and swing cos you couldn't stand the thing, 
Rang the kings, but then there wasn't a man to sing, 
So clench 'til you smell the stench from the French Revolution, 
Can't bench the hell of wrenching with tense elocution.

We're fans for now, 
Mankind now has hand-me-downs.

LIKE I SAID IT WAS VERY GOOD IN PLACES BUT JUST LACKED A CERTAIN DEPTH TO BE A SOLID TOPICAL ADDMIISSION

VOTE KIKI
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Terrific tussle here,highly enjoyable from both..


Nigma..

Vibrant and creative start i thought,the self questioning was a ripe starting point to
haul a reader in,which it did,and the flow/tempo here was on the money also,you i
thought was quite creative in this piece,in parts it had a questioning with double
meanings,then it had a battle-ish element to it too,and the plays were subtlety done
aswell,the angles/concepts were worked well here along with the whole of the rhyme
scheme to be honest,your detailed writing here created some fine imagery along with
the theme in relation to the picture overall,which was a fresh take/approach too,i'm
finding hard to spot faults here,so i've stopped trying,this was ripe from opener to closing lines,a well expressed and enjoyable read..


KiKi..

I really liked the way you stayed with the hand theme here,from fist pumps to pushing buttons,I even liked the angles and concept,your creativity was evident here aswell as
tempo/flow,you mirrored your chosen picture well with the contents i thought,plus it
was easy on the eye via the short line route which you took here,this did nothing but
enhance the whole piece overall,and also made it a pacey read too,as soon as I started
to read I was finished,like Nigma's verse this also kept my interest throughout,it was
like an eager student at college,it stayed on course and didn't stray once in its direction,your plays were also good on the whole,again another subtle and in parts stealthy course with them,they remained in the background and help serve to prop this
piece up too,i liked it along with the feel of being an out of the box verse were the thought process lies,again an enjoyable read..

Overall this was a good showing from both,i'll admit that I enjoyed both pieces too,so
picking a winner is not all that easy,but I'm going to go with Nigma here,here's why,not
only did his verse have depth,it also had range too,adding the different elements all
together was a nice inclusion for me,and due to the cryptic nature and in parts a good
blend of subtleness of he's piece swung it here,Kiki you also had your moments too,but your verse really was lacking depth for me due to its contents being so ridged to be
honest,this was an enjoyable battle for the neutral to read,so props to both..

Vote...Nigma..peace.
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Nigs

Kind of knew you were going to go for this one, fits with your enigmatic style (see what I did there)...I thought this was a real cool drop, there's a real evolution in your writing. You've gone for softer, smoother schemes and you kind of get a bit more ebb and flow throughout the verse now...remember when it was all high brow and hard hitting, not that there's anything wrong with that (& it was dope!) but I personally prefer reading something that's more accessible like this. Sometimes before it was like reading a puzzle, so you were constantly having to concentrate and decipher it...it was more cerebral shall we say...

Not that I think you've lost that essence, but maybe a bit more toned down. I loved your combination of imagery, multis, flow, style and you can really tell you enjoyed yourself writing this one. I loved the interpretation of the picture as like the guy (which was ultimately you) getting stoned and 'birthing' ideas. The only bit I don't really either get, or followed, or maybe fully appreciated was the Exo bit...I kind of remember you both crossing swords recently about no shows (maybe?) so I'm guessing it was related to that. I kind of didn't like that so much if I'm honest...then it kind of made me confused/doubting when you said "spires are spinning to inspire my writtens", as in, was that a deliberate play on Kiki Spirez? Don't think it really matters in the end but I guess my point is kind of I felt in the first part I was totally with what you were saying and then I got a bit distracted by those couple of things and it detracted a bit. The closing part was cool enough, I think the challenge you have with this type of drop is 'how do you finish it' and I think you ultimately did a good job, but it's never going to be as satisfying as a story that kind of reaches it's conclusion.

Overall it was a drop with a lot going for in terms of writing elements and the skillfulness you crafted them together, there were a couple of distractions that didn't really hinder my overall impression that much. But I did kind of think you didn't really push yourself out of your comfort zone & it felt a little 'safe' as a result. But still very good, obviously.

Kiki

Gotta say, I thought this was mega dope...the opening segment was that signature combination of intelligent but sharp wordplay that has real depth to it. At first when you started I was thinking there as a risk it could get dull, or repetitive, or lose focus on the image as a whole in place of hand related plays, but it really didn't at all...and I think that's what I mean about the layers, as you managed to deliver a set of witty plays that were hand focused but then developed to be around the other components of the image and then kind of progressed to be not just about the elements of the image but also the wider landscape that this world might be apart of. I thought that was just masterful. 

Then in the second section I was kind of like...has this guy been reading my Four Horseman drop, lol, not in the sense that you've copied anything just more in the sense that you were using that same of assonance that I used in one of the verses there to depict/reflect the kind of desolate landscape that you're also describing. The final stanza also made me kind of reminisce back to that...that same kind of quality of writing. 

When coming to sum up overall I gotta repeat that I thought this was masterful. You really took me places, and considering you used the short line style & had a load of rhyming content in there as well you really gotta say that's a verse not to be fucked with. I can imagine myself reading this again in years time and still being blown away by the overall quality. 

So for me I felt like there's only one logical winner here...which is weird to say, because I didn't think Nigs dropped anything substandard or anything like that, I really enjoyed his verse and to be fair he showed he is a master of the craft as well. I think the difference here is that while reading Nig's verse my feeling was more "this guy is a master" whilst reading Keek's I thought "this is a masterpiece" and that was the difference really. 

Vote = Kiki, great battle guys...hopefully we see you two do it again at some point in the not too distant future.
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