Rebirth 2012: TOURNEY FINAL: Point Blank VS Swift

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First of all, congrats on makin it to the final for both of yas, and good battle. 

^ Lol if you watch the vid I link to, it shows that swifts are nesting in the wailing wall which is where jews go to pray. Thanks for the votes, 2-1 to me

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alright, ill throw in a vote to close up this final...sucks that missed the tourny, but from what ive seen it fell apart anyway, haha
ok, here goes...point had a better flow to his verse, swifts felt choppy...but neither was spot on....as for the meat of the verses, the punches, neither had any KO hits....
swift's best was the "diss a point", and that was actually a good one..."hitting from "point blank" isnt difficult" one was pretty decent too...the rest were ok
pb had a lot of wit, but none of his punches were that strong...the highlight of this verse, imo, was the nazi line...i feel like ive seen that used on swift before, but i cant tell u for sure where or when so i might be wrong and ill give u credit for it...the rest were clever plays (for the most part) but the focus of the punches seemed moreso on the cultural reference than attacking swift
overall, pb had a somewhat more polished verse, neither really had that much bite though...wit is always good, but a verse is meant to insult someone, not just play around with their name...and in that light, im gonna give the edge to swift...any quips with this vote, lemme know, ill do a bar-by-bar breakdown if necessary

vote: swift

*Comic book shop owner from The Simpsons voice* Worst. Tournament. Ever.

(That's before reading the verses btw...)

Swift - Opener was ok, liked your setup line - it was a good diss - problem is I used that 5*/3* punch against Point back in the day (when he was 5*s and got demoted), so loses a lot of the originality/freshness...still, a decent opener. Second punch was decent again, liked the 'filler' line but again, the punch wasn't something that hasn't been thrown at him before...and in more recent times, pretty much been the standard joke from what I've seen around these parts. Next filler continued it on, was ok, liked the next line...good concept & good hit, obviously a play that has been worked against him before but I thought it was a pretty smart one and it worked well...nice shot. Next one was filler-ish transitional type punch...basically, a jab. Avatar punch was weak, didn't really get the diss behind it...'your avatar is a vampire, vampires are for posers...and you haven't seen a weaker vampire since etc.'...you needed to connect it to him in some kind of metaphor for that to be effective, otherwise you're just dissing his actual avatar rather than him. lol, liked the autobot line even if it was a bit 'I've just googled Point Blank and found this'...nice, good simile to diss him there as well. Liked the next punch, coolio personal. Burning Pb was a good idea, but didn't think it was as effective as it could have been...diss was a bit confused, plus, again, I've seen (and probably used) Pb/Lead concept against him before...it was a decent twist on it in terms of the idea, but could've landed the punch harder. Next one, again, good use of the 'filler', roasted nuts was a bit cheesy but an ok play...would've gone with one or the other of lead or that to be honest with you, especially so close together. Diss-a-point was a good idea, shame that I've also used that punch against him in the past so it loses it's impact against him!! Was ok. Closer was a bit weak, you've already had a go at his avatar...should really be a bit more creative.

Overall, solid verse...you hit consistently, especially liked how you used your filler to diss him. But for me there was a lack of any really top notch knock out blows in there...some of your punches lost some of the impact because I've seen the concepts used before. That said, it was a good effort, and you didn't really flop at any stage which is important. You're in with a shout, but will probably take Point to underestimate you, as he tends to have some bigger hitters in there.

Point - First impression is that verse looks short, but we'll see if that helps or hinders you. Opener...ouch, 'your mum' is a bit weak but at least you had the 'not tight'...but the punch was harsh, great hit. Haha, next punch is vile as well...loved that the 'filler' linked the last punch & the next one and got a diss in as well. Brilliant wordplay/nameplay diss combo, classic LA. Next one was pretty dope as well, liked the double multi in the filler & then nice nameplay linked to a news story, always a nice touch (shows relevance), and a good punch. Liked the next one, it was a bit half-and-half in terms of fashion critics/text styles, but I get that the critics part was linked to the Styles nameplay and the punch was solid...so I thought you got away with it. LOL @ the next punch...good diss again & liked how you linked it to a recent event in LA's soap opera. Good use of the filler, again, funny how you both said you won't show!! Muamba punch is standard, will give you the benefit of the doubt and presume you got in there as one of the first to drop a 'Muamba' punch, it was generic play but recent news so relevant...good hit, not great but you've already done the damage in the rest of the verse, good to mix it up and the diss was solid. Closer was dope, liked how you did a 'this or that' couple of punches and the closer itself was a great punch for this tournament & a quality diss.

So yeah, you chose to do a shorter verse but it didn't hurt you at all...you brought consistent heat and really showed that people shouldn't get hung up on the 'maximum' line limit sometimes, when you bring enough heavy punches you can win a battle.

Clearly, my vote goes to Point...he had higher quality punches and landed them to a better standard. Swift did a good job, but Point has too much class & showed a good variety in his punches. For better quality and heavier hits...Point gets my vote.

2-3 point

Swift Styles wrote: Thanks for the vote, But every play I did seems to be "played out" by the standards of the more established members. Ill save my bitching till after this is voted and explain

...what you expect me to say when I've used the same concepts against him myself years ago? Should I pretend I didn't use any of them and say "whoooooah, great idea...never seen that before"

I don't care who wins...he responded to my vote so I responded back.

And for the sake of accuracy:

Cuba wrote: Muamba punch is standard, will give you the benefit of the doubt and presume you got in there as one of the first to drop a 'Muamba' punch, it was generic play but recent news so relevant...good hit