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Topic: UK OR USA
Posted By: XXplosive
Subject: UK OR USA
Date Posted: 15 May 2004 at 8:42am
so..UK or USA



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Posted By: P-Man
Date Posted: 15 May 2004 at 8:56am

i say he uk sucks these days

usa rules i love it ova there!
Spend alot of time in philadelphia in the summer so i like!



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Posted By: Scotty32
Date Posted: 15 May 2004 at 10:37am

if all the UK has to offer is So Solid Crew/Blazin Squad/Dizzy Rascal then id have to say USA wins hands down

plus it did start there so they have a tad advantage

plus UKs closest to "gangsta" is a bunch of scallys with a combined IQ of a new born baby .... maybe less



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Posted By: XXplosive
Date Posted: 15 May 2004 at 10:54am
lmao 

a UK gangsta? Never will exist!


Posted By: Noxious
Date Posted: 15 May 2004 at 12:26pm

apart from a couple of ppl in the UK, the music sucks!.....the USA is the don for hip hop

peace ~1~



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Posted By: -Orion-
Date Posted: 15 May 2004 at 12:34pm
US easily. Though it's worth addin' that what Scotty listed isn't UK Hip Hop/Rap, it's Garage.

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Posted By: XXplosive
Date Posted: 15 May 2004 at 7:01pm
C-Dolla is a UK rapper...sounds good but uses american accent!
probally the best english artist i heard though



Posted By: Abstrakt
Date Posted: 15 May 2004 at 7:07pm

Hmm america wins this by too far  the best UK rapper ive heard is the colored dude out of Progidy forgot his name...songs called Diesel Power.



Posted By: Chronic Rhymez
Date Posted: 22 May 2004 at 7:47am

tha only thing uk has to offer is garage music my votes 4 da usa



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Posted By: Dez Troy
Date Posted: 25 May 2004 at 8:07pm

 

Same, US invented it!

Slick Rick is british! he not too bad! Roots Manuver not too bad either!

But all ma fave rappers are American, so wats dat tell u! lol

Dez



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Posted By: SymBion
Date Posted: 05 June 2004 at 5:48pm
Prodigy is SICK!!! and Diesel Power is good but Funky Shit is better and that dudes name is Kool Keith it's NOT the black guy his name is Maxim as seen on Breathe video

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Posted By: JCmess
Date Posted: 05 June 2004 at 8:18pm

what is the pointin this man, its standardly US.
C thing is, US started it n got rich n blingin n all hardcore n just luk n sounded bad, they have the money n fundings to sound and appear good.
UK on other hand started gettin 2 americanised n ppl heard american rap about life on the streets n how its hard so automatically asumed they had the right to b "Ghetto and street" also. therefore releasin randomshit on channel U, wiv shaddy sound systems, wooden ass Bass n weak videos, flexin der silver chains from argos for like �50 max.

if u dont agree fair enuf, but thats my opinion, come to think ofit, its not an opinion, like orien said, best from here is so solid blazin squad n Dizzee rascal, i personaly like DIZZEE, but the rest of it is weak as can b, u dont here bout uk hip hop n rap cuz its shit!

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Posted By: Dez Troy
Date Posted: 06 June 2004 at 12:07pm

 

Blazin Squad suck uber balls! They rap bout how they "In their own mind" impress da girls wiv their LOOKS and BLINGS! kill me now!  

Actin all tough wen little todlers could proberly destroy their little fake arses!

Slick Rick made it! He actually raps wiv a british accent, u can tell by the tone and style of his speakin!

So Solid were practically one hit wonders! After dat crappy "21 seconds" all their hype went down the toilet!

Dizzee Rascal iz ill because of his UK voice, and his story tellin rap of problems in London!

But agreed wiv most! Dizzee and Slick Rick are da few illest Uk rappers!

Dez    



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Posted By: Rixa-Mixa
Date Posted: 06 June 2004 at 11:41pm

Ok, i dont know many UK rappers but i have heard the "Streets" and liked his shit, but Australia is Ganstaa bitch! We flog the US by a mile, set Scribe against anyother US bitch and he would SLAUGHTER them, Eminem aint shit, Scribe would flog him, Fiddy cent, Bang dead from Scribe, And lets not forget Savage!

Scribe And Savage are the best Australian/New Zeeland Rappers out chow! They've got these sick unique verses, and then we got Hilltop Hoods, who cut loose!

So I didnt vote, coz i think Australia takes it...



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Posted By: LyRiCaL LAyDeE
Date Posted: 07 June 2004 at 6:29am
no offence rixa but australia aint takin shit. australia aint gangster at ALL. ur fuked if u think that!!! tha\ts as bad as sayin UK is betta den US 4 rap music nah i dont think so. wow scribe have had 1 big hit... doesnt mean australia is now gangstaa land....

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Posted By: Rixa-Mixa
Date Posted: 07 June 2004 at 7:49pm
The gansta bit was accually a joke but maybe ya didnt catch on...

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Posted By: Louie
Date Posted: 08 June 2004 at 7:05am

klashencoff......jeust, karl heinz, <mc vapour more gagarge> check dez for ILL especailly jehust or jeust cant remember. ya all need to listen to the underground more, n uk hiphop is gettin big, all u headz xx, scotty u need to get out of the pop charts n listen to channel u, or some private radios den u will agree uk iz ill jus not as BLING AS USA.... we are real mc's ova here dat focus on orgianlity ..

i like all usa mc's but am uk so i say bring it on to the yanks

UK4LIFE.... n i hate all the american impersonators, use ya own voice and slang, for example dizze, n even illa n pr1 real shit..



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Posted By: Tabetic
Date Posted: 25 June 2004 at 12:19pm
Originally posted by Raptor Raptor wrote:

Hmm america wins this by too far  the best UK rapper ive heard is the colored dude out of Progidy forgot his name...songs called Diesel Power.

 

did you really say "colored " 



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Posted By: -Orion-
Date Posted: 25 June 2004 at 1:22pm

lol, indeed.

Originally posted by Tabetic Tabetic wrote:

Originally posted by Raptor Raptor wrote:

Hmm america wins this by too far  the best UK rapper ive heard is the colored dude out of Progidy forgot his name...songs called Diesel Power.

 

did you really say "colored " 

Haha, done.



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Posted By: King Jehu
Date Posted: 25 June 2004 at 6:53pm
White is a color...

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Posted By: L�vi
Date Posted: 25 June 2004 at 7:24pm

Damn non of ya'll must have hurred some underground UK Emcees...

Thurr siiiiiick as fuck well not all of the of course...



Posted By: Evangelical
Date Posted: 28 June 2004 at 6:04am
^ Word barely anyone has mentioned Jehst, Klashnekoff, Phi Life Cypher, Task Force, Skitz etc... if you havent heard any of that you're missing the whole UK hip hop scene...
And they do gigs n stuff.. saw a big UK hip hop show at Rawganics recently..
Anyways.. even though the UK has some good stuff, it's still catching up.. while in the US they have crappy commercial stuff like G-Unit and Ja Rule, there's major talent in the underground scene... Aesop Rock, Vast Aire, Supernat, Slug, Copywrite... so I voted for USA.


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Posted By: Scotty32
Date Posted: 28 June 2004 at 6:44am
i didnt think the UK had hip hop artists really

i thought UK had "garage" liek so solid and shit wots his name

that dead annoyin guy

anyway i cant stand garage

and plus rap doesnt suit uk, since we dont have lil Gs runnin round with guns pimpin hoes in the ghetto and all that shit

eg aclipz rappin about it all as if hes in G-Unit but hes from wales - just tends to ruinthe affect (nuttin against aclipz - just doesnt suit the uk)


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Posted By: Evangelical
Date Posted: 28 June 2004 at 7:33am
The UK does have some rough areas.. they're generally up North or in London though lol.
But there's loads of good hip hop artists, not just sucky garage. And who says hip hop just has to be about guns, pimpin hoes and stuff? Thats usually just the wack shit.


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Posted By: Scotty32
Date Posted: 29 June 2004 at 5:18am
i live in manchester - i live in a pritty shitty area - since its full of scallys (aka townies, chavs, twats, etc)

but just down the road theres longsight, which is pritty ruff, and its not the sort of place ya wanna hang around in - so ive heard

but wot i mean is, the hip hop style is american, so doesnt fit in england

i was justin guns and hoes as an example of how its diff

i know theres guns in the UK but there not as common as in america, since we have laws against them

its just my opinion, but hip hop doesnt suit the uk as ive said

its just like garage prob wouldnt suit america since its prob people with Novas that listen to that and a nova would prob look shitty in america

*edit* forgot to say, i remembered the guys name - Dizzy Rascal - cant stand him *edit*


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Posted By: Evangelical
Date Posted: 29 June 2004 at 5:25am
^ Nah he's alright lol
There are some striking similarities between UK hip hop artists and U.S ones.. e.g Aesop Rock and Jehst both have that abstract, complex "difficult to understand" style..


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Posted By: G-Pfeif
Date Posted: 29 June 2004 at 8:00am
I like The Streets.... that is realy the only rap outta UK that ive heard.. and i love them... but... USA wins this shit hands down.. there is SOOOOOO much talent, and not just the signed artists who are popular worldwide.. there are so many underground acts that are just as good if not better than some of the signed acts...

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Posted By: Rixa-Mixa
Date Posted: 30 June 2004 at 4:07am
i agree, the streets are sick...

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Posted By: pedipie
Date Posted: 03 May 2005 at 3:52pm
some uk acts got talent equal to that of the us but to the fact of the sheer numbers of us mcs...and the availabilty of hearin them..and the fact thye dope gotta say us...and rappin wi n english accent.....dont like, not much nyway.

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Posted By: BRIGGZY
Date Posted: 04 May 2005 at 9:17am

imo Uk hiphop is pritty sick..

you have the underground heads such as Braintask,skinnyman,Klashnikof,Prof Green,Anticon,Pedigree Chumps,Salford 5, Blood n Jones,Doyden D,

But Us has heads like Papoose,Stackbundle,cashmere n ish who im feel'n at the minute



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Posted By: BRIGGZY
Date Posted: 04 May 2005 at 9:20am

lol scotty where u live?

i chill in longsight sumtimes



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Posted By: Cuba
Date Posted: 05 May 2005 at 2:46pm
I've gotta say that i prefer the leadin heads in the UK underground scene to the leadin heads in the US undaground scene...like skinnyman, streets, klash, roots manuva, phi life cypha...i think that these guys are a lot rawer and bring a more varied style than a lot of the US heads, i think the US has the better lyricists but for the overall scene the UK scene has more high quality variety and i think UK heads shud be supportin UK artists ratha than buyin foreign undaground stuff

And on the 'coloured' thing, white ppl aint even white!!!! Caucasians still have a pigment under there skin and u dont get a white pigment, the only white people on this earth are ppl that have no pigment under there skin and are known as 'albino' thats why wen u hold your hand against a piece of paper that u can clearly see ya hand aint the same colour (if ur white and it aint recycled )...this is why 'white' people go browner wen they are exposed to 'more' sunlight, there body produces more of the pigment under the skin to protect against the harmful UV rays, because darker colours absorb these rays rather than lighter colours that allow them to penetrate and fuk up ur skin...which is why if u hit up a sunbed too much 'white' people will contract skin cancer

So now you know, u use your mind to judge not your eyes

PEaceful

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Posted By: ILLSTARRR
Date Posted: 05 May 2005 at 9:24pm
Drop the knowledge ICE...

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Posted By: King Jehu
Date Posted: 05 May 2005 at 9:39pm
Ice, I seen ur pic...

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Posted By: Cuba
Date Posted: 06 May 2005 at 6:53am
good for u

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Posted By: Scotty32
Date Posted: 06 May 2005 at 7:16am
briggzy: am from stockport - its a shithole (simply for the fact of the vast number of scallys)
i went to manchester center (arndale area) a while back (i dont go there often) and i was amazed to how many 'normal' people was there, yeah there was the odd scally here and there, but it wasnt like EVERY person you saw was a scally - it was weird to see though

icec: wots wot all that about
an yeah 'white' people are more pink, and 'black' people are more brown
but hay, id rather say am white than pink dunno dont sound as good

PS: i profer US stuff, and am not into garage (like so soild crew and The Streets [i think there over-rated]) but Roots Manuva is ight, not heard much though. and i'll continue to buy wot i like, rather than rep sumfin i dont like


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Posted By: Cuttin P
Date Posted: 06 May 2005 at 12:28pm

Originally posted by King Jehu King Jehu wrote:

Ice, I seen ur pic...

Me too...



Posted By: -Orion-
Date Posted: 06 May 2005 at 12:28pm

lmao @ Ice with the white shit... everyone knows that... or I'd hope so at least... black people ain't black either, they brown, even the darkest of the dark (and believe me I've seen some incccredibly dark people in person) aren't black, i.e. you put a fraction of their skin against a black piece of paper, it'd stand out clearly.

Back to the US/UK shit, I prefer the US stylistically 'cuz I grew up on it and only found out about UK shit like 3 years ago, when I'd already been into/listening to Hip Hop for like 7 years or whatever... but I agree with Ice the caliber here is better 'cuz you gotta be that much fresher to get anywhere.



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Posted By: Cuba
Date Posted: 06 May 2005 at 1:32pm
i think u mean carbon paper

and i felt like rantin on that shit, jesus weezus a guy gotta have a legitimate reason to babble on nowadays, what is this cyberworld comin to!!

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Posted By: Fatal
Date Posted: 06 May 2005 at 6:11pm

scotty whut the fuck is a scally? i dont get yall uk talk



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Posted By: Junior Shade
Date Posted: 07 June 2005 at 7:46am
I say UK, Personally we have a better love of real hip-hop, Non of this wack gangster shit like your 50 cent's ect ect.

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Posted By: Noxious
Date Posted: 07 June 2005 at 7:55am
Lol... Thats why yu got Talib in ya sig... *shakes head*

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Posted By: Junior Shade
Date Posted: 07 June 2005 at 8:04am

It did'nt mean UK as in UK artist's are the best with hip-hop, it ment.

Hip hop listener's in the UK have a better veiw Hip Hop music.



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Posted By: Cuba
Date Posted: 07 June 2005 at 8:06am
Talib isnt on some 'wack gangsta shit'

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Posted By: Junior Shade
Date Posted: 07 June 2005 at 8:19am

Word,

*look's at the swinging avi*, He's blinded by some wack gangster shit.

Ever listend to Talib?, Common?, Rakim?, Big L?, Pun?, Nas?...ect, ect, ect, and YES some have bein known for 'Commercial Track's' but on the whole there real artist's, not on some wack G-Unit bling shit.



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Posted By: Noxious
Date Posted: 07 June 2005 at 8:31am
^ Lol..

Who i listnen too ?

Papoose, Big L, Cassidy, Memphis Bleek, Jae Millz, Jae Hood.

Not 'Commercial Shit'... well... a lil...


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Posted By: -Orion-
Date Posted: 07 June 2005 at 8:39am

OK...

Junior meant that the main American scene is dominated with too much gangsta shit... Then Nox ya kinda mistook what he said, doesn't mean there aren't dope US rappers just in the UK talent is more concentrated and there's a better ratio of real talent... Which is a point... tho I still prefer US... jus' thought I'd point out this argument has no means to an end... lol and the ice in Nox's sig/avi is dope



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Posted By: Noxious
Date Posted: 07 June 2005 at 8:41am
It'd look better if the Avi's on LA were Bigger...

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Posted By: Junior Shade
Date Posted: 07 June 2005 at 8:43am
Originally posted by -Orion- -Orion- wrote:

OK...

Junior meant that the main American scene is dominated with too much gangsta shit... Then Nox ya kinda mistook what he said, doesn't mean there aren't dope US rappers just in the UK talent is more concentrated and there's a better ratio of real talent... Which is a point... tho I still prefer US... jus' thought I'd point out this argument has no means to an end... lol and the ice in Nox's sig/avi is dope

Word, thanx man.



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Posted By: Quick Witted
Date Posted: 09 August 2005 at 3:34pm

USA is the birth of Hip-Hop no one can ever take that away

 



Posted By: NuSense
Date Posted: 01 October 2005 at 5:26am
Lmao - That was too easy. I don't like any UK Hip Hop ..!

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