TOURNEY FINAL: Point Blank VS Swift
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Forum Name: Rebirth 2012
Forum Description: New Tournament for Lyrical Assault, Rebirth 2012
URL: http://www.lyricalassault.co.uk/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22408
Printed Date: 27 March 2026 at 2:15am
Topic: TOURNEY FINAL: Point Blank VS Swift
Posted By: Manc
Subject: TOURNEY FINAL: Point Blank VS Swift
Date Posted: 11 March 2012 at 5:39pm
Firstly - well done to the both of you for getting to the final  First to 5 votes or 3 in a row for the KO 24 line maximum Votes have to be explained Verses to be PMd to me no later than one week from today's date (let me know if this is an issue as failure to do so will result in a no-show for the non-poster - and a win by default for the poster) so without further-a-do......... |
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Posted By: Point Blank
Date Posted: 11 March 2012 at 5:53pm
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Posted By: Swift Styles
Date Posted: 11 March 2012 at 7:36pm
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Posted By: Manc
Date Posted: 21 March 2012 at 12:35am
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Swift Styles Bram Stokers wrote the original Dracula Who was passive agressive and Actually hated vampires, Dracula strived to become a member or the british society, Much more pathetic than his bloodthirsty counterparts. Pb is lead, heating it up produces toxic fumes. Point Blank = http://www.transformers-universe.com/include.php?path=content/articles.php&contentid=2022" rel="nofollow - http://www.transformers-universe.com/include.php?path=content/articles.php&contentid=2022 You battled Ram and Gemos, we had no doubt you'd be surviving them The reason your only 3 stars cuz you suck to much for 5 of em And this is the man I'm facing?, I got here wreckin vets I can understand your frustration, being seen as second best Since O's not in the ranking, Your seen favored in the 1 spot But Blank aint got a chance to hit just like an empty gunshot Most would be intimitaded when they look into ya record I realize lining up at Point blank takes minimal effort Your avatar is dracula? Man, Vampires are for posers And there hasnt been a more pathetic vampire SINCE Bram Stoker's Joker..I write Fire, Its evident that Dean's just not as hot My Drop'll have Point Blank folding like an autobot P aint a champ, Honestly this Faggot must be joking When you need the hommie chain just to balance out your opens Prepare to get a smokin', Ive come to far to live and let be Especially, cuz burning Pb's the only way that' he'd be deadly This tournament is mine, This battle's open shut Im Smashing on PB as if he was roasted nuts Its over cuz I posted up, Know that swift dont forum_posts.asp?TID=16242&title=r2-point-blank-vs-2smooth" rel="nofollow - miss a joint And Challenging this Wankers the only time Ill forum_posts.asp?TID=14078&title=r2b2-dressed2kill-vs-point-blank" rel="nofollow - diss-a-point I cant dismiss the point.. Im easily downing this fucker Cuz this dude changed his image from a clown into a sucker! Point Blank Quality over quantity... -Textiles/ text Styles I've won this. Like your mum's pussy, this will not be a tight one Kid you know you're fucking wack when you get DROPPED from Asylum And I can see why Dal didn't want this fag in his team Coz we ain't seen a 'killer shot from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schutzstaffel" rel="nofollow - SS ' since the Nazi regime So how can this nerd be a threat? His punches barely connect http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-17354168" rel="nofollow - Swift lives at the Wailing Wall coz he needs all the prayers he can get LA ain't prepared for my verse, whoever reads will be sent wild! And it's like the voters are fashion critics - they ain't feelin your textStyles! Your name on the trophy? That's something you shouldn't think about You couldn't win if you vote for yourself on all of Slick's accounts I've got a feeling he'll pussy out, I'll be suprised if this battle starts This kid just can't 'handle the beating' like http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17417973" rel="nofollow - Muamba's heart If he does show, I'll win and be reborn as a boss Coz his verse will be a bigger flop than this whole fuckin tournament was...
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Posted By: Kay B
Date Posted: 21 March 2012 at 3:00pm
Just wrote out a huge fuckin vote n the shit failed  Anyway... Nice battle swift held his own but for me point took it, he just had hit after hit from the word go he went in with the hard hits and personals, nice play on the second bar..Swift though i enjoyed your verse it seemed hit n miss to me, your opener could of been followed up with a hard hit, but it didnt seem to land and when the best part of the punch is the set up...iono...I just think with different wording you coulda had some real hard hits, but don't think for a second i didnt like your verse you had some nice hits 'Point being dissapointed at being number 2' being one, but u coulda added that he aint even gotta lose to be knocked off all O's gotta do is log on...lol woulda added abit more to the hit worded right, but it was still a good hit....Point just took it being a level above imo, wouldnt be disheartened though there ain't many on this site that could beat point on his day..an' that's just being real, LOved the textstyles play aswell point...good shit... Overall like i said i think point just showed his class and had the harder hitting verse Vote - Point Good battle guys n congrats on reaching the final -------------  |
Posted By: Gemos
Date Posted: 21 March 2012 at 6:47pm
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First of all, congrats on makin it to the final for both of yas, and good battle. Swift: You battled Ram and Gemos, we had no doubt you'd be surviving them The reason your only 3 stars cuz you suck to much for 5 of em I resent that……but its true there werent much of a chance so il give it to ya, decent opener, coulda been better but it works. And this is the man I'm facing?, I got here wreckin vets I can understand your frustration, being seen as second best I thought this was pretty personal, and a nice way to diss him on how everyone always disses him about O without doing the same thing if you know what I meen. Since O's not in the ranking, Your seen favored in the 1 spot But Blank aint got a chance to hit just like an empty gunshot This setup was good, but I used the whole blank play last round and was told it was played as hell already so idk. Most would be intimitaded when they look into ya record I realize lining up at Point blank takes minimal effort This at first seemed like plain filler. But then I saw what you were doing here, dope I dig it. Your avatar is dracula? Man, Vampires are for posers And there hasnt been a more pathetic vampire SINCE Bram Stoker's aight aight, I figured thered be a vampire punch in here and as vampire punches go this is pretty good. Nice one Joker..I write Fire, Its evident that Dean's just not as hot My Drop'll have Point Blank folding like an autobot I thought this was random until I saw the link. Ohhhh shit man I wish I found that for my verse vs. point. Thats perfect. Point Blank, only appears in Rebirth, dope find man and good line to put it to use, shoulda hyperlinked. P aint a champ, Honestly this Faggot must be joking When you need the hommie chain just to balance out your opens hahaha this is nice yo, real personal Prepare to get a smokin', Ive come to far to live and let be Especially, cuz burning Pb's the only way that' he'd be deadly this ones dope too man, at the beginning of the verse there were a few so so lines but Im diggin the consistency at this point. This tournament is mine, This battle's open shut Im Smashing on PB as if he was roasted nuts Follow a PB play with a PB play. This is original and I doubt its been used before (id have to look which honestly I dont want to do.). I found that its hard to come up with shit on PB that hasn't been said before at this point so I gotta give some extra propers on that. ts over cuz I posted up, Know that swift dont http://www.lyricalassault.co.uk/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=16242&title=r2-point-blank-vs-2smooth" rel="nofollow - miss a joint And Challenging this Wankers the only time Ill http://www.lyricalassault.co.uk/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=14078&title=r2b2-dressed2kill-vs-point-blank" rel="nofollow - diss-a-point This was ill right here, I dig the rhyming, and I like the diss-a-point wordplay a lot. Also personal with the links on the ducked battles. I cant dismiss the point.. Im easily downing this fucker Cuz this dude changed his image from a clown into a sucker! This is a good closer, it isnt the best closer I've ever seen and im not reading it and runnin around the room yellin OH SHIT but it gets the job done. definitely shuts the verse. Point Blank I've won this. Like your mum's pussy, this will not be a tight one Kid you know you're fucking wack when you get DROPPED from Asylum This was tight! well the moms pussy play wasnt too tight but you do what you have to to set up an opener. good way to start And I can see why Dal didn't want this fag in his team Coz we ain't seen a 'killer shot from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schutzstaffel" rel="nofollow - SS ' since the Nazi regime aight your following up here nicely until you drop the SS nazi regime. Now this is an effective hit, but I do believe its been used many times before. And it also just doesn't seem that creative imo (first thing I think of when I hear SS is the Nazi Regime) So how can this nerd be a threat? His punches barely connect http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-17354168" rel="nofollow - Swift lives at the Wailing Wall coz he needs all the prayers he can get aight this was tight, good punch good find. This the sort of punch weve come to expect from PB LA ain't prepared for my verse, whoever reads will be sent wild! And it's like the voters are fashion critics - they ain't feelin your textStyles! This was another tight punch man, dont have much to say about it. Its well worded, set up, and hits hard. Your name on the trophy? That's something you shouldn't think about You couldn't win if you vote for yourself on all of Slick's accounts while I find this hilarious, it isnt personal imo. I mean yeah its cool to bring in Slick (just his name inspires laughs) into anything for a little humor but it just doesnt bash swift as hard as it should I've got a feeling he'll pussy out, I'll be suprised if this battle starts This kid just can't 'handle the beating' like http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17417973" rel="nofollow - Muamba's heart This one I also dig, but once again, as with the last punch, it just does not seem to hit personally at all. Good punch though, I laughed. If he does show, I'll win and be reborn as a boss Coz his verse will be a bigger flop than this whole fuckin tournament was... Its a good closer, same as with swifts closer Im not flipping out over it but it gets the job done. Before I throw in my vote I just want to say this was a tight final. and… MVGT: Swift Styles For overall a slightly better verse imo, more effort put into it and more personals. Yes quality over quantity but a higher quantity of quality lines is going to get you the votes. Once again, tight final, I think Point underestimated Swift a little bit and that makes all the difference. ------------- - Grimy Gómez |
Posted By: Rameez
Date Posted: 22 March 2012 at 2:33am
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You battled Ram and Gemos, we had no doubt you'd be surviving them The reason your only 3 stars cuz you suck to much for 5 of em Not a strong opener, hitting kinda weak And this is the man I'm facing?, I got here wreckin vets I can understand your frustration, being seen as second best Since O's not in the ranking, Your seen favored in the 1 spot But Blank aint got a chance to hit just like an empty gunshot played concept of gunshot, which is same as shooting blank that has been used in past battles, also the punch about his ranking has been used by me and gemos. other than that it's a decent punch though. Most would be intimitaded when they look into ya record I realize lining up at Point blank takes minimal effort ok play but weak hit though... Your avatar is dracula? Man, Vampires are for posers And there hasnt been a more pathetic vampire SINCE Bram Stoker's nice reference but not seeing a hard punch toward point. Joker..I write Fire, Its evident that Dean's just not as hot My Drop'll have Point Blank folding like an autobot again ok play but weak hit P aint a champ, Honestly this Faggot must be joking When you need the hommie chain just to balance out your opens I really don't see the connection of chain with PB, I haven't seen chain riding Pb in the tourney battles, so this bar doesn't make any sense to me Prepare to get a smokin', Ive come to far to live and let be Especially, cuz burning Pb's the only way that' he'd be deadly though Pb plays has been used in past but this was new and creative.. this was a solid hit This tournament is mine, This battle's open shut Im Smashing on PB as if he was roasted nuts weak play.. weak hit.. Its over cuz I posted up, Know that swift dont forum_posts.asp?TID=16242&title=r2-point-blank-vs-2smooth" rel="nofollow - miss a joint And Challenging this Wankers the only time Ill forum_posts.asp?TID=14078&title=r2b2-dressed2kill-vs-point-blank" rel="nofollow - diss-a-point this was good wordplay but punch still needs to be more hard.. I cant dismiss the point.. Im easily downing this fucker Cuz this dude changed his image from a clown into a sucker! this was a good punch toward his avatar.. Point Blank Quality over quantity... -Textiles/ text Styles I've won this. Like your mum's pussy, this will not be a tight one Kid you know you're fucking wack when you get DROPPED from Asylum nice opener, good start with nice personal And I can see why Dal didn't want this fag in his team Coz we ain't seen a 'killer shot from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schutzstaffel" rel="nofollow - SS ' since the Nazi regime lol this was nicely done, solid hit So how can this nerd be a threat? His punches barely connect http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-17354168" rel="nofollow - Swift lives at the Wailing Wall coz he needs all the prayers he can get I don't really know if he lives in wailing wall, so this punch doesn't work for me, more like meh LA ain't prepared for my verse, whoever reads will be sent wild! And it's like the voters are fashion critics - they ain't feelin your textStyles! lol nice nameplay/wordplay.. nice bar overall Your name on the trophy? That's something you shouldn't think about You couldn't win if you vote for yourself on all of Slick's accounts meh I've got a feeling he'll pussy out, I'll be suprised if this battle starts This kid just can't 'handle the beating' like http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17417973" rel="nofollow - Muamba's heart ok play using a soccer player. but not the best.. hitting weak If he does show, I'll win and be reborn as a boss Coz his verse will be a bigger flop than this whole fuckin tournament was...
lol this was funny and hit wellOverall: Swift used some played concepts that were used in the past battles, I find most of his punchline weak. he used alot of plays on point blank name but didn't managed to make it into hard hitting punches. On the other hand point had some hard hitting punches, nice nameplay that made into hard hitting punches. Reading both verses I find point had the aggressive tone in his verse and also the one with harder punches.. MVGT: Point knalb ------------- 
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Posted By: Point Blank
Date Posted: 22 March 2012 at 11:28am
| ^ Lol if you watch the vid I link to, it shows that swifts are nesting in the wailing wall which is where jews go to pray. Thanks for the votes, 2-1 to me |
Posted By: Rameez
Date Posted: 23 March 2012 at 10:04am
| ya too boring for just watching a video to get an idea of punch.. a link to information that is either text or picture in the punch is good enough.. |
Posted By: Swift Styles
Date Posted: 30 March 2012 at 8:54am
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Posted By: Swift Styles
Date Posted: 09 April 2012 at 12:45am
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can we get votes? this has been open awhile and its our tourny fgs ------------- |
Posted By: Bolo
Date Posted: 13 April 2012 at 8:05pm
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alright, ill throw in a vote to close up this final...sucks that missed the tourny, but from what ive seen it fell apart anyway, haha ok, here goes...point had a better flow to his verse, swifts felt choppy...but neither was spot on....as for the meat of the verses, the punches, neither had any KO hits.... swift's best was the "diss a point", and that was actually a good one..."hitting from "point blank" isnt difficult" one was pretty decent too...the rest were ok pb had a lot of wit, but none of his punches were that strong...the highlight of this verse, imo, was the nazi line...i feel like ive seen that used on swift before, but i cant tell u for sure where or when so i might be wrong and ill give u credit for it...the rest were clever plays (for the most part) but the focus of the punches seemed moreso on the cultural reference than attacking swift overall, pb had a somewhat more polished verse, neither really had that much bite though...wit is always good, but a verse is meant to insult someone, not just play around with their name...and in that light, im gonna give the edge to swift...any quips with this vote, lemme know, ill do a bar-by-bar breakdown if necessary vote: swift ------------- I am the one that knocks... |
Posted By: Swift Styles
Date Posted: 13 April 2012 at 9:44pm
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nicee Thanks bolo, its good to see you around again. ------------- |
Posted By: Cuba
Date Posted: 14 April 2012 at 3:09pm
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*Comic book shop owner from The Simpsons voice* Worst. Tournament. Ever. (That's before reading the verses btw...) Swift - Opener was ok, liked your setup line - it was a good diss - problem is I used that 5*/3* punch against Point back in the day (when he was 5*s and got demoted), so loses a lot of the originality/freshness...still, a decent opener. Second punch was decent again, liked the 'filler' line but again, the punch wasn't something that hasn't been thrown at him before...and in more recent times, pretty much been the standard joke from what I've seen around these parts. Next filler continued it on, was ok, liked the next line...good concept & good hit, obviously a play that has been worked against him before but I thought it was a pretty smart one and it worked well...nice shot. Next one was filler-ish transitional type punch...basically, a jab. Avatar punch was weak, didn't really get the diss behind it...'your avatar is a vampire, vampires are for posers...and you haven't seen a weaker vampire since etc.'...you needed to connect it to him in some kind of metaphor for that to be effective, otherwise you're just dissing his actual avatar rather than him. lol, liked the autobot line even if it was a bit 'I've just googled Point Blank and found this'...nice, good simile to diss him there as well. Liked the next punch, coolio personal. Burning Pb was a good idea, but didn't think it was as effective as it could have been...diss was a bit confused, plus, again, I've seen (and probably used) Pb/Lead concept against him before...it was a decent twist on it in terms of the idea, but could've landed the punch harder. Next one, again, good use of the 'filler', roasted nuts was a bit cheesy but an ok play...would've gone with one or the other of lead or that to be honest with you, especially so close together. Diss-a-point was a good idea, shame that I've also used that punch against him in the past so it loses it's impact against him!! Was ok. Closer was a bit weak, you've already had a go at his avatar...should really be a bit more creative. Overall, solid verse...you hit consistently, especially liked how you used your filler to diss him. But for me there was a lack of any really top notch knock out blows in there...some of your punches lost some of the impact because I've seen the concepts used before. That said, it was a good effort, and you didn't really flop at any stage which is important. You're in with a shout, but will probably take Point to underestimate you, as he tends to have some bigger hitters in there. Point - First impression is that verse looks short, but we'll see if that helps or hinders you. Opener...ouch, 'your mum' is a bit weak but at least you had the 'not tight'...but the punch was harsh, great hit. Haha, next punch is vile as well...loved that the 'filler' linked the last punch & the next one and got a diss in as well. Brilliant wordplay/nameplay diss combo, classic LA. Next one was pretty dope as well, liked the double multi in the filler & then nice nameplay linked to a news story, always a nice touch (shows relevance), and a good punch. Liked the next one, it was a bit half-and-half in terms of fashion critics/text styles, but I get that the critics part was linked to the Styles nameplay and the punch was solid...so I thought you got away with it. LOL @ the next punch...good diss again & liked how you linked it to a recent event in LA's soap opera. Good use of the filler, again, funny how you both said you won't show!! Muamba punch is standard, will give you the benefit of the doubt and presume you got in there as one of the first to drop a 'Muamba' punch, it was generic play but recent news so relevant...good hit, not great but you've already done the damage in the rest of the verse, good to mix it up and the diss was solid. Closer was dope, liked how you did a 'this or that' couple of punches and the closer itself was a great punch for this tournament & a quality diss. So yeah, you chose to do a shorter verse but it didn't hurt you at all...you brought consistent heat and really showed that people shouldn't get hung up on the 'maximum' line limit sometimes, when you bring enough heavy punches you can win a battle. Clearly, my vote goes to Point...he had higher quality punches and landed them to a better standard. Swift did a good job, but Point has too much class & showed a good variety in his punches. For better quality and heavier hits...Point gets my vote. ------------- 
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Posted By: Swift Styles
Date Posted: 14 April 2012 at 4:49pm
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Thanks for the vote, But every play I did seems to be "played out" by the standards of the more established members. Ill save my bitching till after this is voted and explain ------------- |
Posted By: Swift Styles
Date Posted: 14 April 2012 at 4:49pm
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2-3 point ------------- |
Posted By: Manc
Date Posted: 15 April 2012 at 4:14am
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Point - the opener didnt rhyme too well for me and the mum thing seemed a bit played to have any real power - even though you used the 'tight one' play in there. I wasnt overly keen on the next few bars either. The links made it make more sense, although the wailing wall bit just seemed too fillerish for me and I didnt see the relevance. I liked the text-styles line a lot, but I've seen suttin very similar and on the same kinda lines before- however, seein as you used it in connection with HIS name - it made it a much much better hit. Loved the Slick line LOL - that was fuckin nice and the best one by far upto now! The Muamba line was hmmm, ok, but again - dint rhyme too well with the line ya used before. And although the idea was like a fresh wound at the time - it'd already been used before you did ya verse, in at least 2 OMs that I can remember, so seein as they too were dropped recenlty, it felt a bit 'used'. The idea behind the closer was alright, and it coulda been better if the wording was different. Swift - Liked the opener! Great way to start off your verse. Second bar was okay - nuttin special though. The next bar was okay - but it flowed really smooth so that made it better for me. The lining up at Point Blank punch was nice. Took me a couple of reads to get it, which took the sting away - but once I got it, it made a lot more sense then n sorta made up for the fact I missed it to begin with. The Dracula line didnt really do much for me but the Autobot line was dope! I liked that one a lot. The next bar was nice too - loved thr rhyming in that one and the punch was a bit of a laugh for me too. Next bar flowed brilliantly for me and the punch wasnt too bad either - n quite clever aswell. Dint like the roasted nuts line - just dint get it. However - the next bar with the diss-a-point punch was a really decent strong hit, so that made up for the bar before. Closer was a nice play on his avatar and a decent finish. Now - I've read this a few times but dint have time nor the right frame of mind to vote. The first time I read it, I thought PB had it easily. But the second time round I seen more into Swifts verse - and it seemed a hell of a lot better than when I first read it. Swift took advantage of the line amount and maybe if PB woulda done the same - my vote would be different. Plus, punch-wise - you both had ones I enjoyed and ones I didn't - but Point very slighly edges it with the calibre of hit - although Swift had more due to his line amount. Flow wise though - Swifts verse was significantly better. It's a close one IMO but...... MVGT Swift |
Posted By: Cuba
Date Posted: 15 April 2012 at 11:08am
 ...what you expect me to say when I've used the same concepts against him myself years ago? Should I pretend I didn't use any of them and say "whoooooah, great idea...never seen that before"-------------
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Swift Styles wrote:Posted By: Manc
Date Posted: 15 April 2012 at 2:44pm
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You basically called his whole verse out as played - I mean, you might aswell have penned his verse for him right? cuz after all - it looks like you used every punch he did. however - you failed to mention that the Muamba line was used by ME in an OM hours after the event had happened - and also by SPUME - annnnnnnd also by other members too. So what you did was call Swift out on plays that have been used on Point YEARS AGO - but not call Point out on a play that was used only WEEKS AGO?? I spose you'll jus say you didnt see those - right? you coulda jus said they were 'played' instead of banging on about how YOU have already used them. Theres blatant swaying - and then there's CUBA swaying SMH |
Posted By: Cuba
Date Posted: 15 April 2012 at 4:17pm
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I don't care who wins...he responded to my vote so I responded back. And for the sake of accuracy:
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Posted By: Cuba
Date Posted: 15 April 2012 at 4:24pm
LMAO @ "Cuba swaying"...how the fuck can you say "I used a Muamba punch first, it was meeeee  " and then criticise me in the same post for saying that I've used the same/similar concepts...my point was that, you can generically say "that punch is played", which is vague...but I absolutely know that I have used some of those concepts against Point before. It aint about ego, it's just me saying that he's used some playes that I know have been done before.That applied to like 3 punches...if I'd came in the thread and said "oh that punch is played, and so is that one" then you'd probably criticise me for not backing it up. -------------
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Posted By: Manc
Date Posted: 15 April 2012 at 6:34pm
Re-read my vote. I mentioned that the Muamba line was played - I didn't start yonnering on about how it was ME that used it first - or that I even used it? But you did. I wouldn't ave even mentioned WHO used it if it wasn't for my reply to your shady subliminal voting tactics - so miss me with that 'hypocritical' shit. You said it in your vote when you didn't need to. And your counting is pretty shitty for an accountant. You called him out on 5 used punches. |
Posted By: Point Blank
Date Posted: 15 April 2012 at 9:06pm
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The Muamba punch can hardly be deemed 'played'...it was a hot topic when I wrote my verse (3 days after it happened) and thats why I threw it in. I don't recall seeing anyone else use a Muamba punch apart from you in an open mic, and you used it in a completely different context (I actually used wordplay in my bar and it had relevance). I don't see how you can say that bar felt 'used', when Swift was pulling out avatar/rankings punches, which Gemos and Rameez had both done in the previous rounds of the tourny against me, and on top of that were all the lead/diss-a-point bars that have been used so many times before. Don't get me wrong, I think Swift had a decent verse, but if you're going to bemoan 'played' punches then at least be consistent |
Posted By: Manc
Date Posted: 15 April 2012 at 9:49pm
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I've never seen those plays before - so why would I say they are played out? and correct me if I'm wrong - but are you saying your Muamba reference was a relevant play, yet mine wasn't? Below is the first one I used - literally hours after the news was announced. It was in an OM called 'Sharpening My Claws' 17th March..... I'll bench any heavyweight...lads please - I'll slam ya drop you on the field like Fabrice Muamba and the next one I used was 3 days later on the 20th March - a totally different approach to the play on words....... cocky prick - like them London police tryna be damn tough we see Fabrice arrested on the field, minus the handcuffs Then yours was used 4 days later. But had also already been used by Spume Corrupt and Kay - before you used it. Fresh - I agree - but already used 4 times. Anyway |
Posted By: Point Blank
Date Posted: 15 April 2012 at 10:23pm
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I don't wanna seem like I'm bitching about your vote but I know for a fact you have seen some of those plays before (you voted in the Rameez battle in the first round, for example). And lol, man I sent YOU my verse at 5:11pm on the 20th, and you dropped your open mic with that second Muamba punch in 4 hours later at 9:11pm, so don't be saying you used it twice before me when you technically never. And no, I'm not saying your bar wasn't a relevant play, but I'm saying mine did have relevance to Swift looking like he was going to no-show, coz he couldn't 'handle the beating' - like Muamba's heart. I fully acknowledge that my verse looks half-assed because it was a few hours before the deadline and I didn't think he'd turn up, but I worded my last couple of bars in such a way that they'd still be effective even if he did show, which thankfully Cuba picked up on. Anyway, 3-3 |
Posted By: Manc
Date Posted: 15 April 2012 at 10:33pm
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I'm not arsed who used it first second or third - but the fact it's been used now 5 times within less than a month of it happening, to me, constitutes a played bar. Similar bars used, years ago - to me don't constitute a played bar. Especially seein as I dont remember seein any of them. People are at a disadvantage before they even start, due to the sheer amount of battles you've had, which would narrow the possibility of coming up with an original play on you. I don't remember reading the other play in any round of this tourney - genuinely.....and don't get it twisted, cuz Im not saying your verse was shit by any means. You're number 2 for a reason. I personally didnt think it was half arsed - I just think that if you'd have used more lines - it'd of sealed the deal. My problem is with Cuba - not you. |
Posted By: Swift Styles
Date Posted: 16 April 2012 at 12:58am
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Ill wait lol. the votes are close, lets get the rest in! ------------- |
Posted By: Rameez
Date Posted: 16 April 2012 at 6:59pm
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lol how about separate the bitching from votes.. So far all votes are fair, I don't see any problems. -------------
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Posted By: Cuba
Date Posted: 16 April 2012 at 10:21pm
Wait, wait...
HAHAHAHAHAHA...that shady subliminal voting, the way I OPENLY come out and breakdown both verses & then give my opinion on which verse is better & then vote that way. That is some shady shit I am up to up, dam, I've been completely rumbled. But to respond directly to what you said...since you aren't able to do the same thing yourself
I called him out on 5 punches where concepts have been used before...I called him out on 3 where I've used specific punches before: 5*s/3*s (that is ONE), PB/Lead concept (that's TWO), Diss-a-point (that's THREE). Btw, that shit is arithmetic...not accountancy.
I've not read & I'm not complaining about your vote (because I haven't read it so I don't know what idiotic shit you've been saying in that post)...I was replying to YOU (yes, this is you, Manc, not me, Cuba) saying this:
So wait...you wouldn't have even brought it up unless it hadn't been for my reply? Even though my reply was in reply to you bringing it up? Do you know people can actually go back and read the thread and check? 
That is honestly the most ridiculous thing I have ever read in the history of LA (and I've read a lot of posts by Scotty, KayB & Frank White)...so a concept that has been used 4 years ago is FRESH because you haven't seen it (but has been used before), but Point's punch is played because you logged online while Muamba was splayed out on the pitch to get in there first & other people dropped punches (including you) AFTER Point came up with his play. Shit, if it was so played then why did you drop your second Muamba punch?! If being second to something makes it PLAYED, why the fuck are you dropping TWO Muamba punches?!!?! -------------
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Posted By: spume corrupt
Date Posted: 16 April 2012 at 11:09pm
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I saw my name mentioned But really you won't find a muamba line In any my work (must be mistaken) I saw it done an went with a redknapp punch That's the confusion It went manc kay point -------------  |
Posted By: Manc
Date Posted: 17 April 2012 at 1:26am
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aha so yea, it was Kay then sshh Cuba. You talk too much |
Posted By: spume corrupt
Date Posted: 18 April 2012 at 9:54pm
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Ok then, I can see this is a closely fought contest so I
won’t drop a half arsed vote!
I’m gonna feed these shitters an break em down just as I
see em, then you'll have my honest opinion and you can take it or leave it
Props on reaching the final both of you……..lets go
Swift. Opener - Its not working for me the first line
kinda bigs Point up a bit an the 3/5 stars thing…Nah, I mean is 5 stars better
than 3? What about 4 stars? Frank white has 4
2nd Nice rhyme on the multi here but can’t
see a punch, just you understanding his frustration at being second best on
this site really…No hit
3rd I loved the idea behind this thought it
was a direct hit , but and there is a but the rhyme did seem forced I was not
comfortable reading (In the 1 spot/gunshot) Better wording would have made this
clean Maybe Blah blah Number 1 spot// but Points not hitting blah blah
blundered gunshot = smoother less forced
4th not sure really first line kinda
backfires again punch is better but not great damage done with this… I mean you
just realized something that’s all. Not too thuggish
5th Don’t like this one! First line was
double cheese, transition was shocking and that rocky punch line was going
nowhere! Just horrible
6th Thought the punch line was good on this!
Nice hit good imagery and concept
7th No hit here with the CHAIN thing! At
least I can’t see a hit
8th Concept was there but the wording was bad
imo..(ya calling him deadly regardless)
9th Smashing
on Roasted nuts? Really..........No way man
10th This could have an should have been dope
but the wording is not right man! Ya saying ya gonna disappoint at the end of
the day Plus challenging a Wanker! What at man?
Closer – Set up hits a lot harder than the punch! You
had something with this concept, but did not hit it right
Point. Opener – Ok so he got dropped from a crew, they
must have been shit and they dropped him so he’s wack? It’s an ok hit but
nothing major…… first line was nasty good use of filler to hit swifts mumma
2nd Flow was smooth on this bar hit was ok wordplay
was ok wording was very nice but I felt this just lacked that sting of a heavy
hit
3rd Best punch/diss of the battle so far
(imo) plus this came with a lil swagger too flow was smooth too I liked this
bar nice concept
4th Set up for this one was a bit cheesey
man! I mean sent wild!!!WTF is that mean?
Punch line was much better wordplay was cool
5th This is a wasted bar (imo) nothing direct
but you do try to keep the heat on your opponent! But no real hit here man
6th I like the way you played this one I can’t
beef with this kinda bar I use at least 1 in most battles it freshens shit up
from being only about nameplays an that. You linked it well to yo opponent and its
fresh material. Wording was cool on the punch line
Closer - You tried
to stay hitting with this, but really despite nice multis on this it was a bit
throw away. A missed swing at best
Well
Honestly I reckon you guys had about the same amount of
successful hits in this battle.
Swift had that Autobot shit his best punch I thought
Point had that Wailing wall shit punch of the battle IMO
I found Swft’s verse just felt uncomfortable and awkward
at times plus some of the wording was sketchy/suspect
Point came with that much smoother flow and the verse
was polished, so easier reading
This was a tight battle but I think both writers failed
to write too they full potential so it’s harder to call.
Experience showed through I think, I just found Point’s
verse had that edge at the end of the day I enjoyed it more
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Posted By: Gemos
Date Posted: 18 April 2012 at 10:37pm
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Id like to point out that its the other way around for me, because you are british of course points verse is going to flow better for you, since I live in the U.S.A Swifts verse has a better flow for me. Just gonna throw that out there. Because I don't think voting based on the flow of 2 different accents is valid ------------- - Grimy Gómez |
Posted By: spume corrupt
Date Posted: 18 April 2012 at 11:01pm
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Lol If that's a complaint take it to I don't give a fuck.Com Otherwise let me have my say dude And JFTR if you read my feed its obvious I preffered points verse for more reasons than just flow Now get off Swifts dick I been suspicious of yo actions for a while now Notice how I fed yo open str8 after voting! Was calculated to measure a response I predicted to myself you'd be on this Thanks damn I'm good ------------- |
Posted By: Gemos
Date Posted: 19 April 2012 at 12:24am
aight dude well your contradicting yourself here. and man you must have nothing to do with yaself besides try an play detective on LA, well you failed homes. The only reason I posted that is because your vote was pretty whack (oh yeah you did all the formatting, and sure its long and shit but ya on points dick the whole way, and it dont look like your gettin off it), and it aint clear what the fuck your trying to say your reason for voting was. I dont know what the fuck your tryin to do here Spume, but lemme let you in on a secret. Your a lot less smart then you think you are. ------------- - Grimy Gómez |
Posted By: spume corrupt
Date Posted: 19 April 2012 at 6:49am
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My reason for voting? Lol Do I need one My vote was the same as 50 percent others Both was shit Points less so Now STFU Gemos ------------- |
Posted By: spume corrupt
Date Posted: 19 April 2012 at 6:50am
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My reason for voting? Lol Do I need one My vote was the same as 50 percent others Both was shit Points less so Now STFU Gemos You had yo say now its sway ------------- |
Posted By: Swift Styles
Date Posted: 19 April 2012 at 7:21am
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http://www.lyricalassault.co.uk/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22293&title=spit-ya-bitchin-here" rel="nofollow - http://www.lyricalassault.co.uk/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22293&title=spit-ya-bitchin-here
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Posted By: Kay B
Date Posted: 19 April 2012 at 1:47pm
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imo a punch/concept is only played when used in the same concept/worded the same...Points muamba punch wasnt
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Posted By: Point Blank
Date Posted: 19 April 2012 at 9:12pm
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Agreed Kay. Cheers spume, 4-3 to me |
Posted By: Manc
Date Posted: 19 April 2012 at 11:03pm
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So if someone dropped 4 OMs in the space of a week (for example) or even if LAX did it (cuz he drops a good few in a row) - and used an Abu Quatada 'play' in each drop - nobody would pick up on it and comment? GTFOH Can't be one for one, n one for another. But anywayz |
Posted By: Swift Styles
Date Posted: 19 April 2012 at 11:07pm
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But my lines are still played out because someone used a form of them years ago. ------------- |
Posted By: J Sass
Date Posted: 20 April 2012 at 5:44am
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damn this isa hot topic....ima break this down and vote ina second..... and for tha Record....i aint seen none of them Point Plays either...soooooooooooooooo they was nice to me.... damn now ima get bitched at when i vote...lol Sass -------------  |
Posted By: J Sass
Date Posted: 20 April 2012 at 6:30am
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You battled Ram and Gemos, we had no doubt you'd be surviving them pretty nice opener...i aint gone say it was a strong punch...but it was a nice Jab And this is the man I'm facing?, I got here wreckin vets nice...hit em on his status...solid punch Since O's not in the ranking, Your seen favored in the 1 spot now yall say "played", i say hot..im jus sayin Most would be intimitaded when they look into ya record this was just aight...i see where you was goin with it...but i dont think it had that much sting Your avatar is dracula? Man, Vampires are for posers eeeehhhhh, i got mixed feelings about that bar...but it was aight...another one with less sting Joker..I write Fire, Its evident that Dean's just not as hot i like that tranformers foldin shyt...that was pretty coo P aint a champ, Honestly this Faggot must be joking thats what i been waitin for...get them personal shots goin..nice Prepare to get a smokin', Ive come to far to live and let be nice....that was solid This tournament is mine, This battle's open shut (Puase)this is prolly tha only line in your whole verse that i wish you woulda never SAID!!!!!!!!!!! please jus take it back...tell me you'll take it back Its over cuz I posted up, Know that swift dont miss a joint shyt i thought that line was hot....straight niceness I cant dismiss the point.. Im easily downing this fucker aight real shyt...this closer wasnt a heavy one...but it was still coo
I've won this. Like your mum's pussy, this will not be a tight one that first line had me laughin fareal, then tha second line was a straight face punch...so ya opener was hot And I can see why Dal didn't want this fag in his team also nice...solid punch So how can this nerd be a threat? His punches barely connect ok...i see you...another solid one.... LA ain't prepared for my verse, whoever reads will be sent wild! you aint even need that Expo for this bar..i wish you aint put it there...it makes wordplay more fun to read when i dont know its comin...nice punch Your name on the trophy? That's something you shouldn't think about im guessin slick has alot of accounts...lol...so i see where that bar is nice I've got a feeling he'll pussy out, I'll be suprised if this battle starts nice punch....and ima talk more about this line ina minute If he does show, I'll win and be reborn as a boss Coz his verse will be a bigger flop than this whole fuckin tournament was...
Swift, yo shyt wasnt played to me my nigga..seein that it was tha first time me seein em. I mean i hope nobody expected ppl to go look up every point blank battle jus to see who said what against em....man we live in tha here and now this aint 5-6 years again....this shyt is right now...and im willin to bet theres only a handful of ppl on here that knows about those bars bein said before. but about ya verse as a whole.... i felt like yo shyt started off a lil slow...i swear even tho ya shyt wasnt weak...i still feel like you had alotta bars of straight Jabs...none of em was really puttin em in tha bag...they were obvious hits..my nigga you aint even try to go outside tha box...like you had a comfort zone and you went with it...not sayin yo shyt was weak cuz that shyt was nice...im sayin you were statin tha obvious.. but you chose to state tha obvious shyt...you shoulda went a lil deeper my nigga....yo jabs was nice but there wasnt no hitter quiters...
P.S. Swift never say you Smashin your opponent like Roasted Nutz...that shyt dont even sound coo...cuz in my city when we say Smashin it means like we eatin...like i jus smashed that burger,,,so when you said im smashin em like roasted nuts...im lookin like damn nigga PAUSE!!! but it jus dawn on me that you mean crushin....but its tha same difference...still sounds kinda iffy
Point GMV
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Posted By: Swift Styles
Date Posted: 20 April 2012 at 10:06am
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Nice vote, thanks for taking the time for some constructive feedback 2. Lmao where you live at?? cuz if that was the slang around here i wouldnt of said it lol. you know you gotta smash up peanuts to make peanut butter / PB this is the play I was going for. Congrats Point. I thought I had this at first. Its hard to write against you, Since this tourny you havent dropped more than 2 opens this year, so finding personals was a stretch. The sheer number of battles you have done limited my use of obvious nameplays, so when i wrote the Diss a point line, I made sure to connect both to the last 2 times you were in LA's tournys with no shows. (FTR I did have my verse in before yours, and hadnt hinted towards no showing myself at all.) I threw in as many bars as i could. it was hard enough to finding relevance. When you dropped What was it.. 14 lines? I was like yeah Im gunna win. My personal opinion on your verse is eh, It feels like a below par point verse. You wrote it fast with almost no intention of winning it feels like. But the votes came in and I got to watch people roll my bars as played or too obvious. http://www.lyricalassault.co.uk/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=16179&title=r1-2smooth-vs-swift-styles" rel="nofollow - http://www.lyricalassault.co.uk/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=16179&title=r1-2smooth-vs-swift-styles http://www.lyricalassault.co.uk/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13809&title=r1b7-mcwoods-vs-swift-styles" rel="nofollow - http://www.lyricalassault.co.uk/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13809&title=r1b7-mcwoods-vs-swift-styles This is just 2 links to Tourny battles Ive been in where the Nazi play was utilized. When I read the line I myself was thinking that was your worst line in terms of "played out" how many times you think thats also been used against SwordedStylez? you older peeps remember him. I was up in the air about the mumba line, As ive been keeping up with at least reading the opens the last few weeks and read the other 2 plays on it. The rest was ok man. Except your closer. I just didnt think it was very strong. the being dropped from asylum was cool, i would of used it cause it Hasnt been used. But i dunno if I even got dropped. When the crew forums went down i belive i was still leader. I came back and i was pending, so I dunno. Its a dead crew now anyway. The slick accounts line was my favorite bar in there. Imo 8-10 of your lines I liked, the rest of it felt assed. Honest opinion. Im over here thinking my 24 lines up to around 8-10 lines i like. I mean I got a whole 10 more lines anyway. Your lines must be twice as magnificent as mine point. Cause I didnt even win the effort game! At some points I just found myself getting aggravated at votes i was reading, getting called out on again those "played punches" if your mumba line can be deemed as not played even though you DID flip it in a new way, Can ideas from at least YEARS ago that have been used against you not be flipped in a new manner as well? My Pb lead line, yeah it could have and probably has and Apparently HAS been used by cuba before. But was it the same? I guess the idea was similar but it wasnt identical i guarantee. At this point in ranting on.. The votes are whatever, Some of them are being argued over, but in the end it was close. You got it dude so congrats ------------- |
Posted By: J Sass
Date Posted: 20 April 2012 at 10:35am
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damn see thats why i hate bein tha deciding vote...my nigga you DID get tha EFFORT... you went in...dont get me wrong....and it aint like this shyt wasnt close...but to me it was like....you had bars...to me they wasnt played....they jus wasnt hay makers...you got bars my nigga....and at first read...you had this shyt won.... if you look at my first post...i had read tha battle, said i was boutta break it down and vote...i had it already made up in my mind that you won...but when i was givin tha feed back on tha bars...PB bars was kinda Shinin hard... so good battle my nigga....thats why i hate bein tha last vote...cuz this coulda went either way...real shyt Sass ------------- |
Posted By: Swift Styles
Date Posted: 20 April 2012 at 10:51am
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Posted By: Point Blank
Date Posted: 20 April 2012 at 10:58pm
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Thanks for the detailed vote Sass, looks like it's 5-3 to me. Props on the verse SS, it was a decent drop and this was a pretty tight battle, I should have spent more time on it but the whole tournament felt like a flop and I just wanted to get it out the way. We could argue all day about played concepts but I'm not gonna bother, it's got the potential to be a never-ending debate. Wrap this tournament up Scotty |
Posted By: Adziano
Date Posted: 21 April 2012 at 12:12am
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I enjoyed this battle.. I didn't want to vote cuz I'm new and shit. The whole thing about lines being played is much ado about nothing IMO. Any hot topic will get worn out in a matter of hours.. and with name plays of course all lines will have a similarity to them.. because they're all based on the exact same maxim... the dudes name which sorta limits your room to manoeuvre! Without talking too much shit I could say that textstyles line is played (but I'm not).. because I've seen different variations of it. Then again sometimes you gotta accept that with the sheer volume of text battles that have ever taken place some concepts/wordplays are gonna get repeated and just try and judge every line/verse on it's own merits... which is what I try to do. Rant over. Some nice lines by both.. have to agree with the final outcome. You could make a case that Swift deserved it for the extra lines and the graft.. but then if you look at a ufc/boxing bout etc 1 or 2 heavy hits can do damage and change the whole complection and outcome. Thats what I felt like here.. wasn't that much difference of quality in the punches.. PB just did enough to tip the scales in his favour though. ------------- Adz |
Posted By: Teacher
Date Posted: 09 May 2012 at 1:55pm
dope drop from both emcee no question, swift had alot going for him, was thoroughly entertained by his verse when reading it n felt he'd be the winner. however after reading points verse i thought as he put it 'quality over quantity'.... both had some brilliant shots but i personally just felt that points was, well more on point, the imagery, flow, overall pretty much everything just shone through that bit more. if you want me to break it down line by line knock ya self n message me, if you happy with this explanation... sweet 
props to both emcee  but MVGT - Point Blank------------- i aint no pro,and i aint a vet but im willing to break bones to gain respect Biker4Life! |
Posted By: Kay B
Date Posted: 09 May 2012 at 2:30pm
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Point wins 5-3....And is the tournament winner, congrats point
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