Awards - July 2014
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Category: Emcee Lounge
Forum Name: Monthly Awards
Forum Description: Nomination and voting for the monthly awards
URL: http://www.lyricalassault.co.uk/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34813
Printed Date: 27 March 2026 at 12:23am
Topic: Awards - July 2014
Posted By: Scotty32
Subject: Awards - July 2014
Date Posted: 04 August 2014 at 8:19pm
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Last month with all the changes going on, I felt it was best to change the format for the monthly awards such as MC of the Month and Open Mic of the Month, so I'll give a brief intro before I get into the winners. Intro As you are likely aware, previously the awards had a thread with nominations and the member base would vote for the winner for that month. Since voting, in general, is an issue on LA, this has been changed to a Judge Panel of 5 to keep things moving and allow for a wider range of awards. At the end of each month the judges will discuss in a private forum which they felt is the worthy winner for that month for all of the awards. The judges are evenly spread throughout the crews so there shouldn't be any bias. Current Judges
MC of the Month This Months Winner: The Law Open Mic of the Month Based on the discussions from the judges, this was a very hard month to decide, but in the end it came down to Exo's and Chain's. In the end they all decided on Exo's tourney verse. I've included some quotes below. Audio Mic of the Month This is an old award that lasted for 2 months with very poor voting before being scrapped from the history LA. But with the vast improvements in Audio on the site, Audio Mic of the Month is now it's back! Voter of the Month A new award to show recognition to people putting in the undesirable job of voting on battles. Winners show a consistency in both quality and frequency of their voting. Sign Off All of the above has been added to /hall-of-fame/" rel="nofollow - Hall of Fame and the respective people will get their badge under their username. Hopefully the format will adapt and improve over time as I threw this together based on the discussions from the judges. Next month there will hopefully better reasoning and quotes from the judges. I'd also like to add that that when ever any of the judges were nominated by other others, they either refrained from voting for their selves, nominated somebody else or excluded them selves completely from the judging when they became a clear winner. -------------  |
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Posted By: Beans
Date Posted: 04 August 2014 at 8:42pm
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true... not a bad start scotty. keep it up and we'll do our best to help ------------- 1-2 Season 1 Final Champ |
Posted By: Cuba
Date Posted: 04 August 2014 at 9:02pm
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I think it's an interesting way to change the awards and worth exploring. But, you shouldn't be able to receive an award if you're on the judging panel. I appreciate that people aren't voting for themselves, but it still undermines the credibility of it, especially when it's behind closed doors and not transparent. If you're a new member and you look at the awards and see the judges names all over the awards and honourable mentions it's just gonna be "smh"... ------------- 
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Posted By: nigerchu
Date Posted: 04 August 2014 at 9:06pm
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Nice change Scotty. And Cuba does have an interesting point, but if you're here at least the month this awards are given, you notice that the people that were chosen, deserve it. Congrats to all of the winners, especially Law. -------------  |
Posted By: Trizzy Tre
Date Posted: 04 August 2014 at 9:11pm
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Props on this man. I think its a good idea. -------------  |
Posted By: Shankley
Date Posted: 04 August 2014 at 9:12pm
Agreed I'm not saying there is any 'skullduggery' but there will be some people like "Hey these cats are just going for themselves" but the winners are well deserved. And that verse from Exo in the final was out of this world good, there would be 'shenanigans' if he didn't win. * Thumbs up for anyone who gets the 'shenanigans' reference. ------------- |
Cuba wrote:Posted By: Point Blank
Date Posted: 04 August 2014 at 9:14pm
Yea I agree with this really. What criteria are you using for say, MC of the month? With all due respect, why is Freeda getting an honorable mention for MC of the month when he (please correct me if I'm wrong) dropped one verse all month? Don't get me wrong, it was dope, and he gives a lot more feedback than the majority of people on the site, but on that evidence I'm assuming the criteria has changed and I think it'd be good for that to be revealed so that others can see what they have to do in order to be MC of the month or at least get an honorable mention. |
Posted By: Arthur
Date Posted: 04 August 2014 at 9:24pm
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thanks for this. having that mc of the month thing under my name was annoying as it was outdated. good decisions. though 2 winners are on the panel lol. ok then. also. it's a travesty that CHAIN's verse was not open mic of the month. no offence whatsoever to exoduzt, his drop was dope. but that CHAIN verse was one of the best things i have ever read on this site.
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Posted By: spume corrupt
Date Posted: 04 August 2014 at 9:50pm
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Well done the winners Kinda preferred the old way tbh -------------  |
Posted By: Exoduzt
Date Posted: 05 August 2014 at 2:43am
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in no way shape or form did I have any influence on me winning this month...just hope everyone is clear on that -------------  |
Posted By: Jay Homicide
Date Posted: 05 August 2014 at 3:25am
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Have you ever considered splitting MC of the month into two awards: MC of the Month - For the actual best writer of the month from a rhyme stand point. Member of the Month - For contributions etc. When you read the title MC of the Month you usually think that the person who gets the award was the months best rapper, which should be won regardless of how much feedback/tourny's they've set up/anything else that promotes activity on the site/anything else they've done. It just feels like there's a distinction between the two, one is based on ability and the other is based on putting in work. That's not a shot at Law either, since he is a good writer. Some months though you'll have someone who is the best writer losing out for not contributing in other areas, and also people who have contributed a lot missing out because their pen game isn't quite on point. Y'feel me? |
Posted By: Exoduzt
Date Posted: 05 August 2014 at 3:59am
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^^ thats what im saying ------------- |
Posted By: Freeda5thDawg
Date Posted: 05 August 2014 at 10:11am
I'm sure we'll get to clarifying this next time. I surely don't feel like I deserve the honorable mention. How I agreed with Law getting it was based on his contributions and activity beyond just the "rap" side of things. I basically looked at it as "Member of the Month" rather than "MC" because that was part of the discussion. Considering how things turned out, I'm sure a decision will be made to either split or change the format because as you see in the quotes, it was about more than just being an "MC". Cuba...me, personally, would definitely prefer to be out of consideration for these. I enjoy more being able to just be a fan of everyone else's work and seeing them be rewarded for their contributions. But I feel everyone, including the judges (excluding me), all deserve to be eligible. -------------  |
Posted By: Cuba
Date Posted: 05 August 2014 at 8:48pm
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Yeah to be clear I'm not saying any of you are shiesty characters...you know I respect your credibility, my point was more how it looks like from a less well informed perspective, with the self nomination & behind closed doors discussions that I'm sure would've been 100% above board. Like I say, I think it's interesting because it basically guarantees you get regular awards which is a good thing...but, I also think you lose that element of the "was never gonna win an award but is a nod to be nominated" which I don't think we should underestimate With that in mind, how about something like a nominations thread every month...where judges ask for people's nominations and then go away and vote. If a judge is nominated then they can be considered for that category, if not, then they can't. Obviously judges can select different candidates...I.e. Nobody nominates Chain for MCOTM but judges think he is deserving winner. That way you lose the "bias" as the judge was nominated by someone else, but you keep everything else which is good about the system. Anyways, sorry for starting the debate in this thread! Congrats to the winners... -------------
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Posted By: Nigma
Date Posted: 05 August 2014 at 9:34pm
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Props to everyone who put the work into this. Obviously a few kinks but thats to be expected with a new system. In the long run I feel this will be a much more accurate process. Congrats to the nominees, honorable mentions, and the winners -------------  |
Posted By: JBrenn
Date Posted: 06 August 2014 at 8:08am
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Congrats to the winners!! -------------  |
Posted By: Skep
Date Posted: 06 August 2014 at 12:18pm
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I honestly think the audio is backwards. Ransom should have won it, one good song compared too how many??? It's about consistency, then picking the strongest one they dropped... Feeling it was a stronger audio than SS's - no hate, this ain't about no crew or empire... scratch all that, this is coming from someone who knows audio and enjoys hip hop... Feeling it was a stronger joint than Now I know, and cuba does have a point, from perspective, it looks like Ransom never even had a chance at winning it... My two cents, take it how you want. ------------- Live Battle Artist The True Audio Champ Verbal Assassin |
Posted By: The Law
Date Posted: 06 August 2014 at 12:28pm
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Calm down, kanye. -------------  |
Posted By: Skep
Date Posted: 06 August 2014 at 12:31pm
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Who me??? For giving my opinion??? An honest an legit one??? Kayne??? Sit down Law, for reals. It's honest truth, only one I disagreed with. Feeling it was a better track. Thicker sound, better quality, overall better, that's not taking away from SS at all. I never said strip him of it. I just gave an OPINION. #SuckADickLittleMan ------------- Live Battle Artist The True Audio Champ Verbal Assassin |
Posted By: Scotty32
Date Posted: 06 August 2014 at 12:36pm
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Skep, Open Mic of the Month and Audio Mic of the Month are not awarded to a person but to a post. The fact is, If all of these awards were voted on by the community as it historically has, we would get nowhere. Just check the patchy history for them all in Hall of Fame. Check the old voting threads to see a lack of interest by the community to be involved in these things. That is why a judging panel has been set up, so things can move faster without the inevitable lag of the community being forced to participate. The judges were picked to give a balanced and unbiased perspective to the panel. If you have any complaints about any of the judges, then you can contact me. As usual, attempts to help improve the site are being undermined by the community throwing in conspiracy theories and general complaining. You all need to start making up your minds about what you actually want from this site. You all want awards but you don't want to vote on winners, nor does it seem do you want a judging panel to pick them out for you. If this whiny and unproductive behaviour from the community in general doesn't die down, then you will find your selves losing the Hall of Fame, awards and belts along with future tournaments, events and battle leagues. ------------- |
Posted By: SwordedStylez
Date Posted: 06 August 2014 at 12:40pm
As much as I respect your opinion, ask your boy Beans. I personally nominated Ransom's tracks and none of my own. Once I was "in the race" I completely removed myself from voting on AMOTM. I won based on the votes of the other judges, all of whom excepting Beans voted for my track rather than Ransom's. I take no personal insult as it wasn't my decision, if I was the other judges though I'd have umbrage with you for questioning my legitimacy. Hilarious really when The one person who DID vote for Ransom was openly discussing it on another site WITH RANSOM. And the other judges were teh "dodgy" ones? Ok then.... ------------- https://soundcloud.com/lostblueeyes" rel="nofollow - Music Ink - Always remembered, never forgotten (as a fake as fuck piece of shit who tried to steal 2 persona's) |
Posted By: Skep
Date Posted: 06 August 2014 at 12:45pm
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None of that shit actually matters Scotty, I could leave the site an it wouldn't affect me. It would affect YOUR activity, so stop with this "I'M BOSS" oppressive attitude, cuz you may own the site but without a member base, it would be nothing, I never did nothing wrong, but disagree with ONE of your choices and spoke about it publicly instead of contacting you. That's what a forum was for I thought??? Discussion??? Opinions??? Feedback??? It's just when someone get negative feedback on their work, they get sour, since it's about admin & mod duties, I'm labeled a whiner? A troll? Let's be real, take a step back, let the ego's go. This was purely because "the panel" didn't have enough experience in actually knowing a solid AUDIO drop. & That's ok, this was just brought back like you said, but without your member feedback, it'll just keep happening again, so instead of freaking out and labeling members TROLLS & WHINERS, be grateful they took the time to give feedback that will try an help the admin & mods and site in the long run. So since I spoke out, I'll assume next time I sign in, I'll have a troll avatar or so on an so forth. I'm outs. ------------- Live Battle Artist The True Audio Champ Verbal Assassin |
Posted By: Skep
Date Posted: 06 August 2014 at 12:49pm
I never said it was biased, I never said anything foul about you or your drop. I spoke a rational outlook, that will help the site, I gave my outlook on the audio, and reffed a sentence that CUBA said and as for all that dodgy shit, I use one site, I don't know what the fuck goes on. I just come on here, socialize, drop work and give my outlook... Real legit, fuck that text net fame. ------------- Live Battle Artist The True Audio Champ Verbal Assassin |
Posted By: SwordedStylez
Date Posted: 06 August 2014 at 12:49pm
Actually Skep, it wouldn't. I personally like having you here, as I like all rappers who come through and share their music. But you leaving would simply remove you from the mix. If you took the crew with you, that's their decision. But 1 or even 6 people leaving isn't much of a threat, it happens all of the time. Believe me when I say that you are welcomed with open arms, if you don't like the place, then leave. In the same way that leaving wouldn't affect you, it also wouldn't affect is one iota. Real talk. ------------- https://soundcloud.com/lostblueeyes" rel="nofollow - Music Ink - Always remembered, never forgotten (as a fake as fuck piece of shit who tried to steal 2 persona's) |
Posted By: Skep
Date Posted: 06 August 2014 at 12:52pm
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Even one person, who posts about 200 posts a month, is still a loss of activity, it's no matter how you look at it, would it stop... NO. I never said that. ------------- Live Battle Artist The True Audio Champ Verbal Assassin |
Posted By: Scotty32
Date Posted: 06 August 2014 at 12:53pm
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Hay, mister smarty pants - the bulk of my post was to THE COMMUNITY not your self centered egotistical ass. I'd never notice you leave - like I never noticed the 1000s of other members over the past 14yrs leave. Since there'll be 1000s more after you. As for "Trolls" - the fuck did that come from? Don't remember mentioning that once in my previous post. Like the rest of Empire - you cba reading anything and just make it up as you go along. ------------- |
Posted By: Skep
Date Posted: 06 August 2014 at 12:56pm
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The bulk of community, well then that's my bad. Since I just got called Kayne by a bag of dicks. Then you write "SKEP" and couple paragraphs saying people are ungrateful. I'm not even gonna argue, obviously y'all aren't open to suggestions or feedback. ------------- Live Battle Artist The True Audio Champ Verbal Assassin |
Posted By: SwordedStylez
Date Posted: 06 August 2014 at 1:04pm
The thing you're missing here is that your "feedback" was a personal opinion that differed from the majority of the voters. There wasn't much to do with improving the system, just a criticism backed with rhetoric about your credentials. You want us to treat your opinion as valid whilst you try and invalidate the opinion of 3 guys who have way more standing, history and reputation than you do on LA? You can't have it both ways. Either we respect everybody's opinions, or we respect none. Unfortunately, the way you expressed your opinion was in an antagonistic "y'all know shit, I know more because I've been rapping a while" manner. Tbh you've been recording tracks 2 years bro, you ain't an expert. I can personally vouch that one of the people who's opinion you wish to invalidate has been spitting AT LEAST since 2007, maybe longer, because I HEARD it. This is your problem with the way the community will react, you attempt condescension on judges then get heated when one of them calls you Kanye? Sorry bro, but it just comes across as weak to the observer. Perhaps if you learned a little more humility and realised that 2 years really isn't a long time and you actually have very little "rep" here on LA you might translate better when you attempt to give "feedback." ------------- https://soundcloud.com/lostblueeyes" rel="nofollow - Music Ink - Always remembered, never forgotten (as a fake as fuck piece of shit who tried to steal 2 persona's) |
Posted By: Scotty32
Date Posted: 06 August 2014 at 1:06pm
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I wasn't going to respond again, but seriously what is this "suggestion", "feedback" or "constructive criticism" you shared with us. I must of missed it, as all I saw was "Random should of won", wow, awesome insight there mate, I'll totally take it on board. So Arthur thought it was a travesty Chain didn't win Open Mic of the Month - Shankley thought it would of been dodgy if Exo DIDN'T win? So how can both of those two people be satisfied - answer? They can't. Only one can win and their will always be people unhappy with the decision. It is an unavoidable fact of life. It could of still happened with the site voting, what would the excuse be then? Fact is, the panel gets to decide, not you. This is the very first outcome from the panel - there will be teething issues - there will be disagreements about the outcome - Things will change, they will improve. So tell me, what would make you happy? For me to reverse the panels decision and award everything to Empire? Give everything to you? Change the panel to simply "Empire's members"? ------------- |
Posted By: Skep
Date Posted: 06 August 2014 at 1:12pm
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How many tracks has "The Law" made?? I gave my opinion, Idgaf... I've been making music professionally for two years... I've been doing audio since 2004. So again, nice try, and I have people that are this site that could vouche that. Known Cue for a damn long age, you think this is my first rodeo??? Or I just know cats like Eyekue, Dope Anetlope, Loose Logic from meeting them on the street?? Take it how you want, it was lack of experience. So before you try an fucking come at me again SS take a step back and ask around, and as for humility, I can take it, you just can't seem to handle the fact that it's true. Feeling it was better, an maybe this was decided on lack of experience. NO HATE. I've been saying this the whole time, I love how everyone gave feedback similar to mine, but I'm the only one being focused on an attacked. ------------- Live Battle Artist The True Audio Champ Verbal Assassin |
Posted By: Skep
Date Posted: 06 August 2014 at 1:13pm
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I already said.... "IT HAS THICKER SOUND" "BETTER QUALITY" "MIXING IS ON POINT" "THE LEVELS ARE EQUAL WITH THE INPUT" ------------- Live Battle Artist The True Audio Champ Verbal Assassin |
Posted By: Skep
Date Posted: 06 August 2014 at 1:14pm
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Idgaf what y'all do, I just spoke my mind for future ref... Fuck y'all, and your sideways antics. ------------- Live Battle Artist The True Audio Champ Verbal Assassin |
Posted By: Scotty32
Date Posted: 06 August 2014 at 1:16pm
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There is an edit button available. ------------- |
Posted By: SwordedStylez
Date Posted: 06 August 2014 at 1:23pm
I'm gonna deduce that you are simply fairly illiterate. Come at you? Are you serious dude? I was polite as a motherfucker to you, and actually Law does make tracks, ask him yourself. And well done a 2 year professional. I've been a professional session musician, guitarist and rock musician since 1999, just so you know. To be honest, you saying you know heads is irrelevant, nobody I know from anywhere Including all of my Canadian friends has ever heard of you - you're in the same boat as most other unknown "pro rappers" ie. Noone gives a fuck. I wasn't "coming at you" once, I even said multiple times that you're welcome here by me personally. Shit, I was one of the first people who welcomed you, AND supported your crew idea, how soon they forget eh? I honestly couldn't give a flying fuck about AMOTM, rap is literally something I haven't even thought or cared about since 2010, I'm only doing this shit until my wrist heals and I can get back on tour. The fact you think I'd be upset over comments by someone who to be quite honest is literally not even close to my abilities as a rapper is just pure jokes man. Seriously kid, know when you're done, anyone who hears your nasal, pussy ass whining tracks with robotic flow can hear the difference in skill, no contest. edit: And you call those tracks PROFESSIONAL? Shit man, my rap stuff is usually recorded and mixed within an hour, pure hobby shit and it MURDERS yours in quality. Get a better engineer/producer man if you think that's professional, for real. ------------- https://soundcloud.com/lostblueeyes" rel="nofollow - Music Ink - Always remembered, never forgotten (as a fake as fuck piece of shit who tried to steal 2 persona's) |
Posted By: Skep
Date Posted: 06 August 2014 at 1:31pm
Once again you're shit is fucked... Half the time you can't even hear you... You're recent track I heard was DOPE!!! But I highly doubt you mixed that. If you wanna get technical, you fucking mumble your words, miss the pockets, and don't even add double ups to your layers. Cool, your a rocker, I can dig that too. Rock out man, but don't think you have any capability that could compare. ------------- Live Battle Artist The True Audio Champ Verbal Assassin |
Posted By: Scotty32
Date Posted: 06 August 2014 at 1:34pm
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Another thread bites the dust..... Skep, SS or anyone else wanting to throw in their 2 cents in on this shit - You know where to go* (* For Empire - that would be the Fuck Yall forum - or do as you ususally do and pick a forum at random to rant in) ------------- |