Mayweather vs McGregor
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Topic: Mayweather vs McGregor
Posted By: Trizzy Tre
Subject: Mayweather vs McGregor
Date Posted: 20 March 2017 at 10:29pm
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Posted By: Cuba
Date Posted: 20 March 2017 at 10:41pm
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Come on Triz, Mayweather is gonna embarrass the guy...the only reason they are doing it is because of the potential money in it. McGregor picks up a couple of million for being the main event at UFC, he'll get 10x that for getting this L. ------------- 
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Posted By: Trizzy Tre
Date Posted: 20 March 2017 at 10:50pm
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Well McGregor will get waaaay more then a couple million. Last 2 years Conor made 40 million. Don't sleep on his money and don't sleep on his skills. I was at Mayweathers last fight in Vegas. It was a joke. Guys throw 2 punches, Floyd counters and they repeat that through the fight. Conor will turn it into a brawl and Floyd will never knock down Conor, but Conor can knock down Floyd. He's not in the prime of his career anymore. I'm telling you, it'll be waaay more competitive then you think. I'm not saying Conor will win, but it will not be lopsided at all. ------------- |
Posted By: Rutter knows best
Date Posted: 20 March 2017 at 10:50pm
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Yeh gonna will get out scored or tko'd. He ain't a boxer, he doesn't have the skill, tactics or gas tank to beat him. It's a bit of a joke really. Anything for money. Don't get me wrong it's good for those who don't really follow either sport but not a good look for either imo. ------------- #bananas 
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Posted By: Neek
Date Posted: 20 March 2017 at 10:52pm
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Tre - my bad bro..went to reply and accidently erased your shit. re-send and ill update OP. my bad bro. legit. anyway - fights at 147. conor has the "defensive mind" that plodding forward with your hands down is the best way to "land your left" and while Floyd has struggled with southpaws..they are leagues ahead of Conor...LEAGUES. Maidana. Cotto. Alvarez (Saul, not Eddie) anywhom... Remember Jordans baseball career with the white sox? ------------- #Bananas 
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Posted By: Lord Puente
Date Posted: 20 March 2017 at 10:56pm
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im pretty sure trizz hates your guts right now -------------  |
Posted By: Neek
Date Posted: 20 March 2017 at 10:56pm
I dont blame him. ------------- #Bananas
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Lord Puente wrote:Posted By: Trizzy Tre
Date Posted: 20 March 2017 at 10:57pm
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Maidana Knocked Floyd down and he's slow as shit. Connor is very unorthodox which Floyd's defense is build around pure boxing techniques. Max kellerman was saying that today. I just believe Conor with nothing to lose is an even scarier Conor. He's supposed to lose, and he can go out there and slug it out with Floyd. The hype will be unbelievable once it's Announced. ------------- |
Posted By: Trizzy Tre
Date Posted: 20 March 2017 at 10:58pm
Not sure for that reason. lol ------------- |
Posted By: Neek
Date Posted: 20 March 2017 at 10:59pm
this aint the 90s... Conor gonna finally fullfill his prophecy of being a lost Diaz brother while the hands up crowd booing shenanigans till that weight cut sets in after the six and in the words of Aye Verb. #Showtime. also per Kellermen.. hes been trying to get a job at UFC before Goldberg got shitcanned. naturally he'll give hope to the MMA crowd. ------------- #Bananas
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Posted By: Exoduzt
Date Posted: 20 March 2017 at 11:04pm
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Easy win for mayweather -------------  |
Posted By: Trizzy Tre
Date Posted: 20 March 2017 at 11:09pm
Well actually Max said there's zero percent chance Conor will win... Most people say an easy win, it won't be easy. EXO only said it's easy cuz he's a Raiders fan, cuz they're dumb. lol oooooohhhhhhh But the odds are +1000 for McGregor... I like to throw a few hundred on him for a nice payday. But yes it's a hail Mary. I'm leaving for Vegas on the 29th, I'll probably place the bet there. ------------- |
Posted By: Exoduzt
Date Posted: 20 March 2017 at 11:12pm
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RN4L ------------- |
Posted By: Neek
Date Posted: 20 March 2017 at 11:12pm
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anytime the line is that wild, always worth it. afterall...anything *can* happen. ------------- #Bananas
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Posted By: NBread
Date Posted: 20 March 2017 at 11:58pm
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Everything will be different for McGregor. He'll need to learn different spacing, timing and footwork and he'll need to master it overnight to win. Plus the cardio is different. I pray he does win. If it were even a kickboxing match here would demolish mayweather. But he'll get that money. |
Posted By: The Law
Date Posted: 21 March 2017 at 12:04am
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I take money may -------------  |
Posted By: Trizzy Tre
Date Posted: 21 March 2017 at 12:17am
Exactly. Looking forward to see it all unfold. ------------- |
Posted By: daydizzle89
Date Posted: 21 March 2017 at 12:43am
| mayweather... I say it everytime and i hate it that im right everrrytime |
Posted By: Trizzy Tre
Date Posted: 21 March 2017 at 1:16am
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We shall see... Also, for those that care, Anthony Johnson is going to work DC at UFC 210. ------------- |
Posted By: rhetorical
Date Posted: 21 March 2017 at 1:18am
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lol will be as one sided as James Toney trying to fight RC in MMA -------------  |
Posted By: SELF ACTIVATE
Date Posted: 21 March 2017 at 1:19am
| I could write a 10 page report on why Connor loses this fight. But in the interest of time I'm just gonna say May all the way! |
Posted By: Trizzy Tre
Date Posted: 21 March 2017 at 1:20am
To be fair, I'd read it. ------------- |
Posted By: SELF ACTIVATE
Date Posted: 21 March 2017 at 2:42am
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Keeping it brief... Off the rip: any man that steps in the ring should initially be given 2 things. The First being respect and the second being "a boxer's chance". In any combat sport the unexpected is always a plausible possibility. For instance there is always the underlining reality that Connor could get lucky and catch Floyd with a flush shot to the jaw. If so the fight is over. Knock out. Case closed. It could happen. It's a fight after all. However, barring the miraculous that's exactly where his chances end and begin. Let's be real Mcgregor is an elite fighter no doubt. He has tremendous skills as evident by his championship belt. So I'm not trying to belittl his talent in any way, but, realistically, his MMA abilities are of little importance in a boxing match. And I know at one time he was supposidly a champion boxer. But was he Floyd Mayweather level? Hell no! If he were it be well known and most likely he wouldn't be fighting for scraps in the UFC if he could be making TMT cash with Showtime or HBO. To assume a guy who practices in multiple different disciplines thus dividing his attention and ability per craft into parts is going to beat a guy, who for all intent and purpose, has mastered a single discipline for the better part of 30 odd years in his own area of expertise where he has 20+ years of experience is absolutely crazy. Mayweather has seen everything boxing has to offer, he knows every angle to throw a shot, when to attack, fallback, pull a dirty move, or frustrate an opponent, things that can't really be taught, but can only be learned from years and years of being in the ring. Not the octagon but the square. Not only that ... he is perhaps the greatest defensive boxer of all time. What exactly is a guy that doesn't box professionally going to do to him that Pacquiao, Hatton, Moseley, De La Hoya, Canelo, Cotto, etc... didn't? Like those are some of the greatest boxers of the last half century and you think there is a UFC guy out there better than them getting paid peanuts in comparison instead of living the high life all these years by taking the boxing world by storm? Come on, bruh. It doesn't make sense. And to even suggest Mcgregor can beat Mayweather is to suggest he's secretly better than all those mentioned above. Like do you really think Connor is faster than Del La Hoya? Hits harder than Canelo or Pac? Or is swifter with the footwork than Sugar Shane in a boxing match? I just don't see it. Remember boxers are trained day in and day out to hit moving targets with their hands and avoid punches only. Connor is trained to multitask. If one technique doesn't work you switch to another such as a kick, knee, or takedown. However, in boxing all you have is your guard and your hands. I don't see his hands or his defense being on the same level as Mayweather's, thus what is his fallback plan...an illegal roundhouse? Also, is he even condition to go a competitive 12 rounds if need be? I mean that's a big difference between the 3-5 rounds he's use to in the UFC where he's not typically on his feet with his hands up the entire time. It's a different beast all together. |
Posted By: Neek
Date Posted: 21 March 2017 at 2:54am
ive always wondered if Conor fans think he could beat Saul or Gennady. ------------- #Bananas
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Posted By: Jay Homicide
Date Posted: 21 March 2017 at 6:22am
| Two totally different sports. Professional boxing and mma boxing are a completely different thing. |
Posted By: Trizzy Tre
Date Posted: 21 March 2017 at 12:31pm
Ok, so I did ask for it. Very compelling paragraph. The only thing I believe you're not considering, is Floyds age. In his prime of course, but look at any sport... any sport. Once even the most elite hit a certain age their skills decline, and even more so when you're not staying competitive. Conor is in his prime. Why discredit his hand striking ability, when all he's done is KO some of the best MMA fighters in the world. Yes, I know it's a different sport, but Conor is a striker and quick on his feet. Also many of the names you gave from floyds past, he fought them when they were out of their prime. Most of those guys were heading to retirement. I watched all those fights. Trust me, I'm not saying Conor is going to win, I just think many people are sleeping on Conor and his ability and the fact Floyd is 40 and hasn't fought in 2 years and even his last fight was a joke. Yes he is the goat, we know this, but I cant wait to see it all. But really great info from you bro. I enjoy the banter. ------------- |
Posted By: Jay Homicide
Date Posted: 21 March 2017 at 12:37pm
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Because his age won't affect him to the point that he's totally inept, it'll mean against top level boxers he would struggle, potentially, but not against somebody with 0 pro boxing bouts. His entire training will need to be changed, and more importantly his habits. His stance, angles of approach, set ups, it's all going to be different. And he also has to get used to the gloves as well. Could he land a wild hook and KO Floyd? Yes. In the sense that any of his prior opponents could've also done that. However if you rule out a random shot from nowhere and go based off of boxing ability, the difference is night and day. Is like putting Bolt in the 1500M and expecting him to beat the greatest 1500M of all time. Both are runners, but the two disciplines have such a monumental difference at the elite level, which Floyd is. |
Posted By: Trizzy Tre
Date Posted: 21 March 2017 at 12:47pm
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I get it, but it's not like Conor was a swimmer and he wants to jump into the ring with Floyd. He's a fighter too, a 2 division champ, most of his abilities transfer to boxing. Your angles, striking, movement, reach, height, strength.... The age thing is a bigger deal then you think. I've seen elite boxers go from top notch to getting ran over by avg fighters. Even in MMA some of the most elite guys, for example Belfort who is a hall of famer and one of the best MMA fighters of all time, and he's up there in age. 2 weeks ago he fought a younger up and comer. Belfort went down like a sack of potatoes. In his prime he would have killed that guy, but now he just doesn't have it due to age. It's just a simple fact in life and in sports. Why does father time not effect Floyd the same way? To be honest, I'm kinda shocked im openly defending Conor. Also Neek, no I don't think Conor could best those guys lol ------------- |
Posted By: SELF ACTIVATE
Date Posted: 21 March 2017 at 1:31pm
| The fact that Floyd is 40 (and knows it) is the reason why he's fighting Connor and not some one like Errol Spence. Floyd is very cognitive of his legacy and his perfect record. You said it yourself ... all those dudes he fought were past their primes. Now that's debatable, however, operating on the premises that it is indeed true, then one must ask himself the question as to why it is true and the simple answer is, he hand picks fighters he knows he can beat. Now after 20+ years in the fight game, undefeated, and insanely rich, do you think Floyd has forgotten this crucial method of ensuring victory? Remember, Mayweather has been in the business a lot longer than Connor, hell even UFC president Dana White use to be his luggage boy, so he's not foolish enough to actually be "foolish" to begin with. I have no doubt he is not underestimating Connor or taking him lightly. However, I also have no doubt he has studied Mcgregor and knows what he's capable of and has determined based on whatever criteria he uses that he can defeat Connor. If not he wouldn't be taking this fight nor would he be jeopardizing an historic 50-0 run. Don't get me wrong I know the huge payout is the biggest motivation for both, but I highly doubt someone as meticulous and methodical as Floyd would throw caution to the wind and abandon all logic at this point in his career. I mean to come so far just to lose to a guy that's not even a ranked boxer (regardless of his feats outside the sport)? It just doesn't make sense, bro. |
Posted By: SELF ACTIVATE
Date Posted: 21 March 2017 at 1:32pm
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Nice debate tho You all brought up some good points |
Posted By: daydizzle89
Date Posted: 21 March 2017 at 1:33pm
The angles are completely different. Boxing is a very rigid sport in terms of angles compared to MMA. Feet movement is completely different and striking (even punching) is different. What i see being an advantage for Conor would be his Age and strength. His iron jaw will help also. I just think if this goes 12 rnds, Mayweather got this in the bag. |
Posted By: SELF ACTIVATE
Date Posted: 21 March 2017 at 1:42pm
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Dizz I don't think Mcgregor is much stronger than Pac or Canelo or the last dude Floyd fought. And I also don't think his iron jaw is going to provide him much of an advantage given the fact that Floyd hasn't knocked out an opponent in like a decade, literally. Besides that's no even his aim nowadays. He wins by picking his opponents apart and exploiting holes in their defenses by throwing accurate punches. He won't out fight Connor but he will out box him and tally points on the score card. |
Posted By: daydizzle89
Date Posted: 21 March 2017 at 1:43pm
Yeah I know, i dont see Conor winning. Just seeing any angle that might give him a dying shot. |
Posted By: Neek
Date Posted: 21 March 2017 at 5:31pm
he knocked out Victor "I dont think I need to get hit like this" Ortiz. also this article is worth a read for anyone confused on how much this isnt an actual contest. - http://teamstre.am/2nGE7Ko" rel="nofollow - http://teamstre.am/2nGE7Ko ------------- #Bananas
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Posted By: D.Von Doom
Date Posted: 21 March 2017 at 6:17pm
Let these mfs know self! They dont know shit about boxing! |
Posted By: SELF ACTIVATE
Date Posted: 21 March 2017 at 6:18pm
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Lol at the bell But you're right. I'm gonna peep the article Neek. |
Posted By: SELF ACTIVATE
Date Posted: 21 March 2017 at 6:31pm
| Just my opinion fam. But I think deep down everybody knows Floyd is gonna take it. Assuming this imaginary fight even takes place in real life. It'll be a circus, probably not as good as it's billed or advertised to be. But it''s probably the closest we'll ever get to realizing the classic/impossible childhood dream of Mike Tyson squaring off with Bruce Lee. This the bootleg version, but Ill happily give em a few bucks to see what will happen. |
Posted By: Neek
Date Posted: 21 March 2017 at 6:33pm
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bootleg lol.. this shit is going to be Ivan Draggo vs Apollo Creed IRL... just replace living in america with foggy dew. ------------- #Bananas
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Posted By: D.Von Doom
Date Posted: 21 March 2017 at 6:35pm
I only hear the talk of chances from mma fans. They think mma boxing is the same as pro boxing on a world class level. Mayweather is going to play around with McGregor. Conor doesnt even have a proper stance, and he telegraphs his punches. This will be a flashback of arturo gatti |
Posted By: Neek
Date Posted: 21 March 2017 at 6:51pm
bro its the same folks that said Ronda Rousey would whoop Floyd, Laila, Anne Wolfe, Cain Velasquez. same folks. ------------- #Bananas
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Posted By: D.Von Doom
Date Posted: 21 March 2017 at 6:54pm
Alot of hype jobs are being compared to a 20 year champion |
Posted By: SELF ACTIVATE
Date Posted: 21 March 2017 at 6:58pm
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@Neek Lol word. I can see it already. @Doom Well, we can't act like boxing wasn't built off of racism and cultural bias. so you already know what 95% of those arguments are about off the bat. Also, how else do you market a fight involving an All-Time great boxer and a great fighter that is out of his element? You gotta build the hype to sell the fight one way or another. Thus Connor suddenly becomes the internet version of Chuck Norris ... the guy that'll finally put an end to the Mayweather reign ... kind of like the last 25 boxers before him. |
Posted By: D.Von Doom
Date Posted: 21 March 2017 at 7:37pm
| @self accurate... |
Posted By: SELF ACTIVATE
Date Posted: 21 March 2017 at 7:58pm
| Honestly, I think Connor has a lot of respect for Floyd. He's essentially his younger UFC equivalent in terms of marketing and public persona. I also think that Mayweather actually respects and or likes Mcgregor as well. Why wouldn't he? They're almost the same person. Somewhere secretly in a multi million dollar estate they're both sipping champagne and collectively scheming how to make this fight even bigger and more profitable than it already is. |
Posted By: Trizzy Tre
Date Posted: 21 March 2017 at 9:18pm
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I'm glad I created this thread, lots of good conversation on the topic.. If it's going to happen in June or September like they're saying it's gotta be announced soon. Then the real hype will begin... Looking forward to the hilarious remarks from both of them. Both guys are witty when it comes to trash talking. ------------- |
Posted By: NBread
Date Posted: 21 March 2017 at 10:17pm
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Speaking of Floyd saying hilarious shit. |
Posted By: Sammy
Date Posted: 21 March 2017 at 10:35pm
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^^lol!! On the real pretty much what self wrote. I don't go around parading this but I did amateur boxing for the better part of my teen years mainly cuz my record was 7-5 and nothing to brag about, but Boxing is a VERY technical art. Setting up, disrupting rhythm etc, and Floyd is a master of that. While mcgregor is figuring out how to hit Floyd, money is already setting up for a leading right. But again, as self stated a boxer's chance is always present. -------------  |
Posted By: Trizzy Tre
Date Posted: 21 March 2017 at 10:45pm
So you're sayin there's a chance!! I read ya, I read ya... Like one a thousand or like one in a million? lol ------------- |
Posted By: Sammy
Date Posted: 21 March 2017 at 10:46pm
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Posted By: Trizzy Tre
Date Posted: 21 March 2017 at 10:51pm
Exactly. ------------- |
Posted By: SELF ACTIVATE
Date Posted: 21 March 2017 at 10:59pm
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Lol... Well, Connor isn't oblivious to how to box. Honestly, he could probably be an elite boxer if he put his mind and time to it. So he definitely has a shot to surprise us all. I wouldn't completely count him out. BUT if I had my money on the books I'd go with Floyd every time in this match up. I don't see Connor doing anything Pacquiao couldn't in terms of speed, strength, or striking ability, and I couldnt imagine him getting in Floyd's head enough to distract him or throw him off his game. Thus, I have no idea (save for a random knockout or a TKO) how he's gonna win. BUT realistically you never know. Connor isn't some bum off the street. He's champion pedigree no doubt. But in this particular instance and under the circumstance they are fighting Money May should be given the pre-fight favorite and advantage all the way. |
Posted By: Trizzy Tre
Date Posted: 21 March 2017 at 11:31pm
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Well for every $1,500 you bet on Floyd you win $100. Insane odds. ------------- |
Posted By: D.Von Doom
Date Posted: 22 March 2017 at 6:17pm
49 and 0...no matter what Ya'll put. Cant down him in the ring so yall resort to this |
Posted By: NBread
Date Posted: 22 March 2017 at 7:05pm
| He gets the proper respect that a wife beater is due. |
Posted By: daydizzle89
Date Posted: 22 March 2017 at 7:06pm
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If i was his wife, i would get my ass whooped for the $$$$$$. |
Posted By: D.Von Doom
Date Posted: 22 March 2017 at 7:09pm
Hater spotted |
Posted By: NBread
Date Posted: 22 March 2017 at 7:13pm
Dick Rider in the building |
Posted By: D.Von Doom
Date Posted: 22 March 2017 at 7:20pm
What you wanna do then? Its free smoke over here |
Posted By: NBread
Date Posted: 22 March 2017 at 7:26pm
| I have no clue what that means. I'll let you know once I find it on Google |
Posted By: NBread
Date Posted: 22 March 2017 at 7:30pm
| Ok I got nothing. You trying to offer free trees or fight me? |
Posted By: D.Von Doom
Date Posted: 22 March 2017 at 7:37pm
Point proven |
Posted By: NBread
Date Posted: 22 March 2017 at 7:46pm
| You all in your feelings because I made fun of your boy? |
Posted By: D.Von Doom
Date Posted: 22 March 2017 at 9:03pm
Feelings? What are those? |
Posted By: daydizzle89
Date Posted: 22 March 2017 at 9:16pm
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NBREAD, DONT KILL THIS THREAD YOU FUCK BOY. With that being said, I hate Mayweather. I truly think he is a piece of shit. I always want to see someone end his reign of terror on people. Problem is, you cant deny that he is the best of the best. You dont go 49-0 being great. You go 49-0 on being a fucking goat. I would love to see Conor boy beat the shit out of Mayweather. The problem is.... Conor hasn't spent the last 20 years of his life dedicated to boxing. He hasn't spent 20 years perfecting the art of boxing. Boxing and MMA are two completely different monsters. Conor wins a MMA against Mayweather, hands down. Mayweather wins against Conor in boxing, hands down. I give credit to Conor for stepping outside the octagon to fight Mayweather. I give Mayweather credit accepting the fight. For Conor to win, he will have to gain tons of strength, practice getting his jaw smacked with a glove, get insane endurance and if, and i mean with a big fucking IF, He will have to find a way to wear out Mayweather. Conor lacks technique, experience, endurance and Boxing IQ. |
Posted By: Neek
Date Posted: 22 March 2017 at 9:23pm
the fights at a 147lbs tho.. Conrad McGuillicutty gassed at 170. hes going to be extremely drained, which is why he wont return to 145 in his chosen sport, its a grueling cut for a guy his size - but he enjoyed the size advantage for many years. so outside of Moneys great skill in the sweet science.. we also have will. Conor or Conrad McGillicutty has shown throughout his career a will to quit. Floyd has never looked for an out. Conrad shot in on Nate Diaz who has nowhere near the boxing skills of Money because he was desperate and wanted out. He was submitted in his cage warriors days. an iron will means you dont tap. you go to sleep. Conrad looks for outs so hes going to be tired and getting embarassed... he has 3 rounds for his miracle. after the 6th its going to get ugly. ------------- #Bananas
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Posted By: Goryo.
Date Posted: 22 March 2017 at 9:36pm
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Nothing wrong with tapping when you think long term. Noguiera could've had his career ended by not tapping to Frank Mir. Their body is their trade and they have to preserve it. Anyway I think Mayweather wins pretty easily. Conor will have to change his whole gameplan, and senses he's gained doing MMA for so long. I actually want him to beat Mayweather cause I'm a big fan. Not a Mayweather hater either I mean yeah he did get to 49-0 but it doesn't take a goat to do that look at Marciano he beat washed up Joe Louis, Joe Walcott and Archie Moore. If Marciano was the same age just a short while later in the 60's he would've lost to quite a few guys never mind the 70's which was THE heavyweight era. I'll give it to Mayweather he doesn't fight to go to war but like I said he's thinking about the tool of his trade (his body) and his wellbeing (if they all boxed like Jerry Quarry a lot more would end up like ... Jerry Quarry). What Conor has going for him is that he is a good combo fighter and picks his shots well which is actually a good plan against Mayweather (check the Mosley fight) plus he has the instinct to finish a guy off in those situations. That will work in his favour, his power will work in his favour when it comes to putting Mayweather in those situations but it's not gonna be enough cause I dunno if he'll be given the chance to execute that plan. Mayweather's gonna know his style and exploit that just as he has before. He's gonna know that Conor will get tired and he's gonna know that when he hurts him he can capitalise. He's got a great boxing brain and can adapt well to his opponent's style.
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Posted By: Neek
Date Posted: 22 March 2017 at 9:40pm
what about getting run over by a truck as a child?  where was nogs long term thinking there? and really.. I think the bombs he ate from guard at bodyblow did more damage than a broken arm. ------------- #Bananas
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Posted By: Goryo.
Date Posted: 22 March 2017 at 9:45pm
| Haha. I'd need to watch the fight again but I wouldn't chance a broken bone when I know 100% that I could prevent it and save myself from possible retirement. They risk it all every time they get in there but he knew what the outcome of that situation was. That's just rolling the dice cause of an ego. |
Posted By: Neek
Date Posted: 22 March 2017 at 10:03pm
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yeah but a rear naked choke? ten seconds and you go to sleep. ------------- #Bananas
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Posted By: Goryo.
Date Posted: 23 March 2017 at 12:16pm
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Yeah I know what you mean. Maybe he did just have enough or he knew there was no way out. I think if he did get out he'd just keep getting out boxed anyway.
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Posted By: Jay Homicide
Date Posted: 23 March 2017 at 12:50pm
| Plenty of people tap when in a choke, it's just a habit picked up with BJJ. Doesn't mean you lack heart anything, just that you can alnowledge when you're beat. If he doesn't tap out, does he magically get out of the choke? No, he still loses. It's just about fighting formalities, and in that situation 9/10 tap. Arm bars and kimuras are a little different, as you can roll etc to try get out, which is often when breaks happen. When a choke is in deep though, there is no getting out of it. |
Posted By: Goryo.
Date Posted: 23 March 2017 at 1:42pm
| I've not done much bjj but I'd imagine being choked out cold can damage your brain even if the paramedics get straight to you. Maybe not cause it's not like a concussion but if my only option was to tap or go to sleep I'd just tap. |
Posted By: Neek
Date Posted: 23 March 2017 at 2:39pm
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see Burkman/Fitch. burkman held that shit for 17 hours and Fitch is fine. could be a matter of opinion really. dont see the point in tapping to a choke or strikes.. im looking at you Valentine Overeem! limbs are definitely different than chokes. and I wasnt talking about his heart in tapping, though I do think that shows mental weakness.. esp considering that gunnar probably chokes him 70 times a session. watch all his losses he looks for an out. and even against Mendes he didnt look to win until Chad was sucking air.. conserving energy against the VASTLY smaller fighter cause his tank is trash at that weight.. all these things add up to why this shit swings heavily in Moneys favor before we even get to the actual skills. ------------- #Bananas
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Posted By: Jay Homicide
Date Posted: 23 March 2017 at 4:00pm
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Difference is a fighter knows if the choke is in or not, once a choke is in and working that's it, you're done. Diaz II showed he doesn't look for an out, he gassed out after 2 rounds and round 3 he got beat the fuck down, stayed in there though and came back to win the next round. |
Posted By: Arthur
Date Posted: 23 March 2017 at 8:12pm
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I'll throw a thought into the hat. Can we agree that MMA striking and boxing are different? As in, different timing and often different angles? Check this out: http://www.si.com/more-sports/2013/07/24/sports-gene-excerpt That's basically an article about some of the worlds best baseball hitters couldn't hit a softball thrown by a women's professional softball player because the speed, timing and distance was a bit different. See what I'm getting at? Mayweather has never fought an MMA fighter in a boxing ring. Mayweather is a master at defending against pro level boxers using boxing techniques. Maybe once Conor starts moving in an unfamiliar way and throws punches in an unfamiliar way, Floyd may think "shit, this is different" Thoughts? |
Posted By: daydizzle89
Date Posted: 23 March 2017 at 8:16pm
100% see your point. Lets throw this into the mix 8oz gloves Conor wins 10oz gloves Mayweather wins  |
Posted By: D.Von Doom
Date Posted: 23 March 2017 at 8:17pm
Wrong |
Posted By: Brotha Goose
Date Posted: 23 March 2017 at 8:33pm
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I've been a kickboxer and a jiu-jitsu practioner for 21 years, I fought on the semi-pro circuit for 7 of those years. In my experience it's extremely hard to take my mixed martial arts skill set that I've been practicing for most of my life and break it down and compete at an elite level using just one. When you've been training for most of your life your moves stop being actions and turn into reactions. What I'm trying to say is a boxing match with Mayweather will be a lot more difficult for McGregor than he thinks it will be. He'll need to focus on controlling certain movements and breaking habits that would benefit him in the octagon, but might hurt him in the boxing ring. If I were McGregor and planned on continuing my career in MMA I wouldn't agree to a straight boxing match with Mayweather, the potential damage it could cause to my MMA game just wouldn't be worth it to me. ------------- 
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Posted By: daydizzle89
Date Posted: 23 March 2017 at 8:36pm
Posted By: Jay Homicide
Date Posted: 23 March 2017 at 11:01pm
It's a good point in concept, but remember that boxers have nailed down the most effective movements and set ups for boxing. Anything Conor tries, is probably just going to be more awkward than anything else if he wants to be crazy with angles. I think his biggest issue, is his stance. He has a karate stance, wide base almost side on. Switching to a boxing stance is going to fuck him up. The gloves is a good point, as it's another thing Conor has to deal with, finding even tighter gaps in the guard to try and land. All his stuff that he does in the UFC doesn't work in a boxing fight. The shadow pressure he employees, of forcing you against the cage and making you strike first because of it wont work with Floyd because defence is ranked so much more highly in boxing, that pressure alone wont do it. Floyd's jab and move, and pull back counter are second to none. How I think the fight will go is like this: Early rounds: Conor will throw volume, fans will go mental and react every time. Floyd will back away, circle to Conor's weaker side, clinch and use the jab when he can. The MMA/Conor fans will be convinced he's won the rounds, but as I said defence and accuracy % matter more than output, and Floyd will be quietly winning rounds. Middle roounds: As Conor slows down, which we've seen happen with his style, you'll see Floyd become a bit more active. Nothing flashy though, that's not the Money way. Effective use of jabs, counters to Conor's shots, and continued movement. This is where you'll see Conor slow his out put, and effectively lose the mental war as he will be stuck in a position of realising Floyd can land and set traps that he can't avoid, whereas he can't do much. Later rounds: You may get one last flurry from Conor, the hail Mary. Floyd will continue to do what he does best, and just continue to edge away on points. In the end you're probably looking at a 10-2 score card in terms of rounds, and that may even be being generous. Disclaimer: This is assuming the fight goes as you'd expect with technique etc You can't discount either landing one shot to knock the other out. Conor has mad power, and you can't say its impossible for him to catch Floyd. Also, whilst Floyd isn't a power punch, if Conor over commits, he could easily be knocked out too. Such is fighting, weird things happen.
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Posted By: poongod
Date Posted: 23 March 2017 at 11:54pm
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my boxing techniques are good, it's just I get sprayed with radiation, nerve gas and bullets if I fight someone so that slows me down significantly I don't really know many combos, but if I land one punch in your face you're dead. |
Posted By: poongod
Date Posted: 23 March 2017 at 11:54pm
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also my hand speed is faster than anyone else's( just look at how fast I wank) |
Posted By: Jay Homicide
Date Posted: 24 March 2017 at 12:34am
Posted By: Neek
Date Posted: 24 March 2017 at 9:11am
Nate let off the gas tho, he was alright with being "alright" and Nate is a journeymen in his own sport. looking for an out doesnt mean you arent awesome and/or a killer. Jerome Le Banner is one of my favorite fighters of all time, but ive seen him quit on his stool in a fight he was winning, still would watch him fight today..even if hes well past his prime. Mike Tyson one of my favorite athletes of all time, ive watched him quit. His mental weakness is what turned him into Kid Dynamite tho. some fighters have an uncanny will to win.. Mayweather is one of those guys. he would literally rather die than lose, whats all im getting at. its just different. its not that Conor isnt "tough" his fight against Holloway shows hes tough as if fighting for a living didn't as he blew out his ACL.. but by his own admission, he panic'd when the "shots" didnt drop Nate in the first fight, he didnt understand the bigger man could "take the shots" (his words).. so hes admitted to panic, looked for an out several times - what happens when hes drained at 147lbs and frustrated? mistakes. mistakes will be super costly. ------------- #Bananas
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Posted By: Trizzy Tre
Date Posted: 12 May 2017 at 7:45pm
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Dana White gives a deadline this weekend to make this fight happen. Although I'm sure that doesn't mean we'll find out this weekend, but still a very interested storyline... ------------- |
Posted By: J pens
Date Posted: 12 May 2017 at 9:14pm
| This fight should not happen. Unfair to McGregor he is not a professional boxer. May weather would never enter a mma bout. If he fought McGregor on the street or in a mma match he would get murked. In a boxing match mcgregor has a punchers chance against the best defensive fighter in history....not looking to good but on the bright side may weather can not hit very hard his hands are weak an prone to damage so I don't really think he can hurt McGregor. The fight would surely go the distance to a decision win for floyd. As a mma purists I hope this fight does not happen. Don't get me wrong I like boxing but it belongs in its own realm. I felt the same way when couture murdered James tony |
Posted By: Trizzy Tre
Date Posted: 12 May 2017 at 9:52pm
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Not sure why you wouldn't won't to see the biggest combat sports event in history. I guess.. but I see what you're saying. The Mayweather haters and McGregor haters will watch, fans of both will watch, people that have no fucking clue will order the pay per view. Could it be lopsided of course...I mean I don't think so but of course it could be. It'll be a spectacle to see unfold. These debates make this super fight what it is... 2 champions in two different sports near the same weight step into the ring. The new age verse the all time great. I'm a fan of combat sports I love boxing and MMA, so for me it's something I'd love to see. ------------- |
Posted By: Goryo.
Date Posted: 14 May 2017 at 7:27pm
| It is kinda unfair but it is a spectacle. Boxers spend their whole life/career perfecting their boxing, and no MMA fighter just wants to perfect their boxing. They have to be all-rounders and that doesn't work if you just focus on one thing. Even now with Mcgregor focusing solely on boxing he's not got the years and mileage Mayweather has, but anything can happen. One good shot can disrupt your focus and leave you open. Even with all the experience in the world you can make a slight mistake that your opponent can either pick up on deliberately or just luckily. |
Posted By: Exoduzt
Date Posted: 15 May 2017 at 4:51am
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No matter what ...people are paying to see this shit go down. Everyone will watch this fight. And pay for it. I think Floyd will just do what he does and master the ring. Connor will look for the knock out in round 1. Get tired and Floyd will just manage the fight. Boring yes. But he still will win. I hate them both in each of their sports to be honest. But I don't see this going any other way
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Posted By: rhetorical
Date Posted: 15 May 2017 at 1:33pm
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if this fight happens. . will just be a bullshit gimmick to suck money from fans of both boxing and MMA. It should be nothing more then an exhibition fight where all the proceeds go to charity. This fight will be just as one sided as when Toneys old fat ass tried to step in the cage with Couture and Dana White had the fucking audacity to bill that shit as boxing vs mma pfffffff ------------- |
Posted By: Sammy
Date Posted: 15 May 2017 at 4:38pm
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lol i'm def not watching this shit lmao ------------- |
Posted By: Trizzy Tre
Date Posted: 19 May 2017 at 5:36pm
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McGregor has signed.... Now up to Money Mayweather... No doubt this fight is happening. McGregor also just applied for his boxing license. Good shit!! ------------- |
Posted By: Trizzy Tre
Date Posted: 14 June 2017 at 11:35pm
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aaaannnnnnndddd....... It's official. August 26th. ------------- |
Posted By: Nigma
Date Posted: 15 June 2017 at 1:06am
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Stoked it's that soon. Soon as I r3ad the headline I knew you'd already be posting about it lol |
Posted By: ch3kkgame
Date Posted: 15 June 2017 at 1:09am
| Bruh, I have to actually ride with Trizz on this one. I think McGregor has a better shot than people think and at the end of the day he is a real life fighter. Boxers are trained to fight in a choreographed way. The shoulder motions put into those punches make them readable. If Connor can maintain his MMA foot work and keep his strikes unchoreographed it will be a bit different for mayweather to read them. Giving him the potential to land some shots and if they connect they will be power shots. Then on top of that the size difference in the two will be noticeable when they stand face to face. My two cents and I'm watching the fight, but I sure as shit ain't paying for it. Lmao |
Posted By: Neek
Date Posted: 15 June 2017 at 10:43am
I get what youre saying, but that MMA footwork will get him looking like a park player vs an and 1 player.. his ankles gon get broke tryna keep pace. floyd mayweather is the greatest defensive mind in the history of combat sports, nevermind just "boxing". he doesnt do your ordinary every day shoulder roll type shit or he'dda been mopped a few times now. his shoulder roll is used to sling shots and escape, not just avoid power shots like a ray sefu or bernard hopkins shoulder roll. hes extremely crafty man. does conor have a punchers chance? sure. you and I do as well.. its good for both sports. its excellent barber shop talk. I just dont think mcgregor is the caliber of a maidana or a canelo. ------------- #Bananas
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Posted By: ch3kkgame
Date Posted: 15 June 2017 at 11:27am
| Nigga defense wasn't to dope when T.I.P swung on his ass and fucked up his wrists. Again, boxing is based on a set of choreographed movements. The greatest defensive mind in the history of combat sports got hooked by a rapper. #FACTS. I think it'll be entertaining tho. |
Posted By: ch3kkgame
Date Posted: 15 June 2017 at 11:28am
| In addition scared business don't belong in any ring. Those dudes feared Mayweather. I don't believe Connor is scared of that nigga. |
Posted By: Jay Homicide
Date Posted: 15 June 2017 at 3:17pm
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The big issue is going to be Conor having to fight so much muscle memory, I think that's a big aspect people over look. MMA fighters after training so long instinctively do stuff like kick, elbow, knee and grapple. He's going to have to be ultra aware of that, which is another distraction. All he does have is a punchers chance, even if Floyd has slowed a little bit the skill gap is just too much. Plus Conor's style doesn't really fit either, backing Floyd up A) will be hard B) ultimately won't be as effective because even in the times he traps him, landing with boxing gloves is different to landing with MMA gloves. He's at his best when he counters, Aldo and Alverez being the key examples of that. Floyd will happily not engage though, and just pump the jab to point away the rounds. Really though Conor already won with the event happening, that's his victory. Maybe we even see some Thai dumps, or Conor get pissed and through a kick. |
Posted By: Neek
Date Posted: 15 June 2017 at 4:34pm
maybe, but a sucker punch during an argument isnt the same as a main event in Vegas. also, it looked like clifford harris had to get scooped off the ground and them legs was paying homage to dj unk. where dey at doe? ------------- #Bananas
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