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    Posted: 16 September 2013 at 7:17am
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About to go Medieval on ya...

Crusade, a splattered blood stain, flesh maimed bones crunch'n under Tungsten blade,
Make haste or yur last breath escapes a waste, its judgement day force the tounge to pray.
Your Holy war is my Jihad, a battle you wont win, I dont give in, im the Sultan of Yemen Saladin,
Sim-sala bim, your Johnny Quest led you into a lions den, you aren't David Nor King Richard my friend.
My mace gains momentum, stiking sternum then cerebellum incredible pain, death is welcome,
Post mortem, Crusade lay slain squirm'n from riga mortis, an idiom in good form, fit for a zealot.
Knights Crusade met with opposition, your new mission...Run from BG like the Medieval Inquisition,
Plot your position with precision,well stock your provisions, Pope Clement rage'n holy war on the Christian.
Goose puts boots to Crusade, now he's a footnote in history, not a mystery can't beat Original Syn,
Crusade has met his end, leaving him the same as he began, less than nothing now same as then.



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1.Sultan Saladin (ruled Egypt, Syria, Yemen) defeated the crusaders and reclaimed Jerusalem in 1187
2.King Richard took part in the crusades known as The Lion Heart
3.David from the bible, story David and the lions den
4.Sim sim salabim is what Hadji from the cartoon Johnny Quest used to say
5.Pope clement led the Medieval Inquisition(killed Christian soldiers)




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If this were a test about the holy war, Brotha Goose would be excelling every task
But the thing is that my 5-year old niece has better spelling than this fack

My rhymes are rated R, yours are rated PG
This douchebag couldnt murder the alphabet, even if he watched ABC

This pussy dickrides rappers like a horse under a cowboy and a saddle
He is going to look like his avatar when Im done with him after this battle

Brotha Goose spent 20 minutes for each bar, Why? Because he fears me and becomes cautious
Im a splattered blood stain? At least my people werent stupid enough to vote a molester for office

This guy is King Richard? He splashed his pussy clean when he heard gunshots during the "Cold, Winter Nights"
Can this faggot get anymore cornier? He called himself an Alpha Fox while spitting as Brotha Goose on the mic

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Bar 2: He mentioned Johnny Quest, a TV Show that used to air in the ABC Network.
Bar 4: http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/08/31/us-usa-sandiego-mayor-idUSBRE97U01F20130831
Bar 5: Brotha Goose rapped about from the gunshots he heard from the streets in the Open Mic Post,"Cold Winter Nights". He also has another verse named "Alpha Fox", self-complimenting himself how he is a blood-thirsty as a fox.



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Crusade, a splattered blood stain, flesh maimed bones crunch'n under Tungsten blade,
Make haste or yur last breath escapes a waste, its judgement day force the tounge to pray.
Sturdy first line, second is kinda random 

Your Holy war is my Jihad, a battle you wont win, I dont give in, im the Sultan of Yemen Saladin,
Sim-sala bim, your Johnny Quest led you into a lions den, you aren't David Nor King Richard my friend.
Like the assertiveness..

My mace gains momentum, stiking sternum then cerebellum incredible pain, death is welcome,
Post mortem, Crusade lay slain squirm'n from riga mortis, an idiom in good form, fit for a zealot.
Impressive phrasing of words here, not sure about squirming from riga mortis though


Knights Crusade met with opposition, your new mission...Run from BG like the Medieval Inquisition,
Plot your position with precision,well stock your provisions, Pope Clement rage'n holy war on the Christian.
Not directly confrontational yet again very grand use of language 
Goose puts boots to Crusade, now he's a footnote in history, not a mystery can't beat Original Syn,
Crusade has met his end, leaving him the same as he began, less than nothing now same as then.
Aights, liked the "footnote in history" remark





If this were a test about the holy war, Brotha Goose would be excelling every task
But the thing is that my 5-year old niece has better spelling than this fack
Aights start.. 
My rhymes are rated R, yours are rated PG
This douchebag couldnt murder the alphabet, even if he watched ABC
Not a bad rebuttal

This pussy dickrides rappers like a horse under a cowboy and a saddle
He is going to look like his avatar when Im done with him after this battle
I think you could have expanded more on this one 

Brotha Goose spent 20 minutes for each bar, Why? Because he fears me and becomes cautious
Im a splattered blood stain? At least my people werent stupid enough to vote a molester for office
Again, this idea could have been more extensive than just pointing it out

This guy is King Richard? He splashed his pussy clean when he heard gunshots during the "Cold, Winter Nights"
Can this faggot get anymore cornier? He called himself an Alpha Fox while spitting as Brotha Goose on the mic
Aights finisher


BG has enough self-reliance or lack of respect of his opponent to just say fuck the standard filler\punchline ish and do his own thing. I'm a fan of that, he flexes sum writing skillz and his verse works well as one cohesive diss. 
  

Crusade, I think you are improving by the battles, next time I would like to see you try some puns\wordplay and add more rhymes to make it flow better.

Vote goes to BG - overall more entertaining to read. 
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BROTHA GOOSE
Crusade, a splattered blood stain, flesh maimed bones crunch'n under Tungsten blade,
Make haste or yur last breath escapes a waste, its judgement day force the tounge to pray.
(NICE OPENER THAT HIT)
Your Holy war is my Jihad, a battle you wont win, I dont give in, im the Sultan of Yemen Saladin,
Sim-sala bim, your Johnny Quest led you into a lions den, you aren't David Nor King Richard my friend.
(THIS WAS GOING WELL BUT THE WAY YOU FINISHED IT MADE IT A MISS/REACH)
My mace gains momentum, stiking sternum then cerebellum incredible pain, death is welcome,
Post mortem, Crusade lay slain squirm'n from riga mortis, an idiom in good form, fit for a zealot.
(RHYME SCHEME AND IMAGERY WAS NICE BUT I DID NOT SEE YOUR POINT)
Knights Crusade met with opposition, your new mission...Run from BG like the Medieval Inquisition,
Plot your position with precision,well stock your provisions, Pope Clement rage'n holy war on the Christian.
(ONLY THING THAT STOOD OUT WERE THE MULTIES)
Goose puts boots to Crusade, now he's a footnote in history, not a mystery can't beat Original Syn,
Crusade has met his end, leaving him the same as he began, less than nothing now same as then.
(CONCEPT WAS NICE BUT A SLIGHT MISS.)

CRUSADE 

If this were a test about the holy war, Brotha Goose would be excelling every task
But the thing is that my 5-year old niece has better spelling than this fack
(COULD HAVE MADE THE PUNCH HIT HARDER BUT I LAUGHED A BIT AND IT HAD SOME TRUTH)

My rhymes are rated R, yours are rated PG
This douchebag couldnt murder the alphabet, even if he watched ABC
(SET UP WAS ELEMENTARY BUT THE CONCEPT FOR THE PUNCH WAS COOL)

This pussy dickrides rappers like a horse under a cowboy and a saddle
He is going to look like his avatar when Im done with him after this battle
(SET UP WAS NICE WHEN YOU THINK OF IT FIGURATIVELY AND THE PUNCH WAS FUNNY WHEN LOOKING AT THE AVATAR)

Brotha Goose spent 20 minutes for each bar, Why? Because he fears me and becomes cautious
Im a splattered blood stain? At least my people werent stupid enough to vote a molester for office
(THE SET UP SHOULD HAVE BEEN MORE DIRECTED TO HIM LOOKING UP INFORMATION AND THE PUNCH WAS QUESTIONABLE)

This guy is King Richard? He splashed his pussy clean when he heard gunshots during the "Cold, Winter Nights"
Can this faggot get anymore cornier? He called himself an Alpha Fox while spitting as Brotha Goose on the mic
(DECENT ENDER) 

Vote - Brotha Goose. Verse was very solid and packed substance. Verse contained knowledge, multies, and punches. There was some slight reaching here and there but overall good. 

Crusade i like your ability to rebuttal but i feel as if you can make those rebuttals much stronger. I also like your use of facts and personals. Just channel your focus more on your angles and your punches will land stronger 
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Alright, thanks for the votes and pointers! I will be taking the advice and applying it to my rhymes to make my battle rap skills harder, Im sure BG will do so also. Your time is greatly appreciated.

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2-0 BG upping for votes
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Vote = Crusade

BG = i think Cru said it pretty much in his first line...you've dropped a well researched verse, I liked that you tried to diss him in that way...taking his name & extending the metaphor. But it didn't really work at all in terms of making a forceful impact against him. As a verse, it did have some redeeming features in terms of style (think Concrete summed it up when he said grand use of language), but equally some nonsense too "squirming from rigamortis" doesn't make sense, your body stiffens up in rigamortis...

Crusade = In many respects I thought you also could've landed much better shots in this one....you had some decent concepts that didn't connect that well...e.g. ABC one, your expo tried to link it as a flip but if you read the line...there's nothing in there that makes it a flip, it's just a pretty bland punch. Opener was borderline ehhhh as well, I liked the filler line, solid diss, but I dunno wtf fack is and that softens the blow significantly...but, it was a solid diss & throws a punch so gets you that level of credit. Avatar punch was cool (couldn't work out wtf you were on about with that horse part), molester for office was a cool punch & the closer was decent but again, I think you could've landed that harder / more direct...you rely on the expo there to an extent.

So yeah, in terms of creativity/ approach BG was actually quite fresh...problem is, punch lines win battles and are the most effective way to do damage...BG really just jabbed nicely. Crusade could've done a better job landing his punches harder...but the ones he did land did enough to get him across the line here for me.
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Brotha Goose: The verse was Google 101 incorporated into a battle which isn't the best way to get at the head. some things were clever had this been a personals battle it might have worked. The vocab was nice and some rhyme use but there was not really anything that hit him hard.

Crusade: You came with a str8 battle verse, there were DIRECT personals, which in comparison to your opponent made much more impact. You had some punches, they were not very strong, but they assisted and were to the point. If you stay away from punches like "watching ABC" you'd be good.

I can't say I was diggin' either verse to be honest, but the overly used Google approach is not dope in a battle, nothing is very direct, you're dissing a choice of name as if he IS the crusades, not really enough to make me think it hurt ya comp. Crusade had a flat out battle verse, mixed up some stuff a bit, had a few hits and misses, but held ground.

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Thank you, both Cuba and Illism (and everyone in this thread), for your constructive criticism delivered in this battle. I will attempt to apply the wise pointers given for my upcoming rap battles and land harder punches rather than winning by decency and mediocrity.

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BG (my vote)- I liked his use of terminology and history. I like he based it all on  his opponents name. though I do agree he did take it a little to far and should have approach his opponent a little more harshly
 
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Crusade- this would've been good but you should've incorporate your own things instead of just throwing stuff back at him. while he made it so complex you made it too simple if you would've just went hard you would've won cause a lot of people wouldn't understand his terminology
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thanks for the votes fellas
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Originally posted by D.M.C D.M.C wrote:

BG (my vote)- I liked his use of terminology and history. I like he based it all on  his opponents name. though I do agree he did take it a little to far and should have approach his opponent a little more harshly
 
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Crusade- this would've been good but you should've incorporate your own things instead of just throwing stuff back at him. while he made it so complex you made it too simple if you would've just went hard you would've won cause a lot of people wouldn't understand his terminology


In rap battle, terminology does not become just as much as an importance as punch lines and DIRECT hits are. BG was basicaly dancing along the lines, his verse simply felt like a history of the Crusades, filled with self-hype and little to none insults towards his opponent. Tell me what kind of battle rapper would use those lyrics BG has battled with within a tens of tens of hip-hop fanatics. Absolutely zero percent in his verse was personal nor insulting. But I do thank your vote and will use your feedback. Please re-read both verses, and tell me if you still feel the same way in terms of battle rap, not a topical verse.




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stop sway'n ya bitch.....lets break.down yur wack ass "punchlines"

20 minutes per bar, I posted in 2 1/2 hours, you took a whole day.

Molester in office...get yur facts straight sexual harassment is quite different
from molestation(equally disturbing though)

This guy king Richard......can you read I said, "YOU aren't David nor king Richard my friend"

Alpha fox.....Wtf? No such thing Fox's burrough, they do not run in packs....Alpha Wolf, posted right
on this site and ya fucked it up??

How you gonna sway votes homie? Have you seen me say shit, nah I keep under wraps
and address the issue at the source....IN PRIVATE.....stop cry'n like a lil bitch.
I hope you see this b4 its deleted
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Originally posted by Brotha Goose Brotha Goose wrote:

stop sway'n ya bitch.....lets break.down yur wack ass "punchlines"

20 minutes per bar, I posted in 2 1/2 hours, you took a whole day.

Molester in office...get yur facts straight sexual harassment is quite different
from molestation(equally disturbing though)

This guy king Richard......can you read I said, "YOU aren't David nor king Richard my friend"

Alpha fox.....Wtf? No such thing Fox's burrough, they do not run in packs....Alpha Wolf, posted right
on this site and ya fucked it up??

How you gonna sway votes homie? Have you seen me say shit, nah I keep under wraps
and address the issue at the source....IN PRIVATE.....stop cry'n like a lil bitch.
I hope you see this b4 its deleted


Lol, why is Lyrical Assault filled with such fake gangsters?

Yeah, in the wise words of AZ:

"Life's a bitch"

With the crap going on in my life and the schoolwork I need to address towards, I tend to have a hard time finding a balance between priorities and hobbies. And a sexual molestor is just the same as a sexual harrasser, it is like saying a cub is not the equivalent of a baby bear. And I have used the Alpha Fox line because your name is Goose, how in the flying fuck can one being call himself a fox going by the name of "Brotha Goose". And Im not dswaying votes, i am questioning the damn injustice occuring in this damn thread. I understand my defeat in the previous battles but I assure you, this one I have one. I might've not spit the best verse in the world, but last time Ive checked, personal shots and decent punchlines reign over self-hype and Hole War Lectures. And I am not the only one who shares the same opinion. It is surprising how a verse that was influenced by a Wikipedia Page is voted more than a verse that was influenced by a variety of Lyrical Assault Pages.

Your damn verse was an all-out abomination that was directed towards the Crusades that occured hundreds of years ago as opposed to obliterating the damn enemy that lives in 20 fuckin 13 PERSONALLY. Every single bar was filled with references to the Holy War, not to the Crusade in the battle rap arena.

Crusade, a splattered blood stain, flesh maimed bones crunch'n under Tungsten blade,
Make haste or yur last breath escapes a waste, its judgement day force the tounge to pray.


Okay, so your going to force me to pray.

Your Holy war is my Jihad, a battle you wont win, I dont give in, im the Sultan of Yemen Saladin,
Sim-sala bim, your Johnny Quest led you into a lions den, you aren't David Nor King Richard my friend.


I WAS BORN IN 19 FUCKIN 97! You just basically said that your going to win a battle and how your some old person that took part of the Holy War. OUCH! I AM FUCKIN CRYING IN DISBELIEF! YOUR SELF-HYPE ASTOUNDS ME!

My mace gains momentum, stiking sternum then cerebellum incredible pain, death is welcome,
Post mortem, Crusade lay slain squirm'n from riga mortis, an idiom in good form, fit for a zealot.

So I am dead because you bring awesome lyrical content is so fuckin awesome. Again, YOUR SELF-HYPE ASTOUNDS ME AGAIN!

Knights Crusade met with opposition, your new mission...Run from BG like the Medieval Inquisition,
Plot your position with precision,well stock your provisions, Pope Clement rage'n holy war on the Christian.


So my new mission is to run away from you because you are a Pope (holy figure) waging war. Again. YOUR SELF-HYPE ASTOUNDS ME AGAIN FOR THE THIRD TIME!

Goose puts boots to Crusade, now he's a footnote in history, not a mystery can't beat Original Syn,
Crusade has met his end, leaving him the same as he began, less than nothing now same as then
.

So I have died like usual (when I have like, one win in my form). That last bar was illin, man, you are so fuckin awesome.

Now, compare it to this verse:

If this were a test about the holy war, Brotha Goose would be excelling every task
But the thing is that my 5-year old niece has better spelling than this fack

My rhymes are rated R, yours are rated PG
This douchebag couldnt murder the alphabet, even if he watched ABC

This pussy dickrides rappers like a horse under a cowboy and a saddle
He is going to look like his avatar when Im done with him after this battle

Brotha Goose spent 20 minutes for each bar, Why? Because he fears me and becomes cautious
Im a splattered blood stain? At least my people werent stupid enough to vote a molester for office

This guy is King Richard? He splashed his pussy clean when he heard gunshots during the "Cold, Winter Nights"
Can this faggot get anymore cornier? He called himself an Alpha Fox while spitting as Brotha Goose on the mic

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Bar 2: He mentioned Johnny Quest, a TV Show that used to air in the ABC Network.
Bar 4: http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/08/31/us-usa-sandiego-mayor-idUSBRE97U01F20130831
Bar 5: Brotha Goose rapped about from the gunshots he heard from the streets in the Open Mic Post,"Cold Winter Nights". He also has another verse named "Alpha Fox", self-complimenting himself how he is a blood-thirsty as a fox.




In all good consciousness, my bars might have not been on their A-Game, but they have definitely slayed your shitty verse since they were more direct and had content that insulted you personally, instead of giving a damn lecture about the Holy War and making historical references. There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that you are a mighty emcee and have a potential to be among one of the greats, but I am just delivering my input in an honest manner. I am just expressing how decent punches and personals reign victorious over self-hype and historical references, and how this Crusade is not a Holy War, but is instead a hispanic teenager who has no friends (and believes he doesnt need any to succeed), son of two immigrant parents who makes eight dollars a day from the work of the labor force my dad serves upon and is violently and humiliatingly beat by the fists and whips of his own mother, and was born when his mom was 15 years old (I just gave you and any one who researches properly weaknesses to make their jobs more easier so I cant hear all this mediocre bullshit dissing me being voted); try to insult that type of Crusade instead of aiming for historical references and overused battle ideals. Which is more probable a battle rapper might use: a verse filled with self-hype and historical references or a verse filled with personals and decent blows. Make shit personal, do not stick with vague, corny references and tickleblowers. Again, I mean no harm, it is just my opinion.
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^Sorry for the typos above, this corruption just upsets me.
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Crusade - stop swaying. Infact that's such a major sway - I'm going to move this to review until I get home from work.
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