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The Law
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Topic: IC2 Round One: Battler 8 vs Battler 25 - 25 WINSPosted: 30 March 2017 at 3:03pm |
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Identity Crisis: Round 1 - 25-40 Lines - Best of 5 - Battlers will be anonymous- Votes will be hidden - Wednesday April 5th, Midnight GMT time - Reserves if needed, Friday April 7th, Midnight GMT time Picture Topic ![]() Edited by The Law - 30 March 2017 at 9:17pm |
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The Law
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Posted: 05 April 2017 at 2:30am |
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Battler 8 This life is sixes and sevens, it depicts noone's heaven, It has been messing my essence - asfixiating my presence, I was given the impression this life's a blessing till you die, It reflects the beauty - but then refelections are a lie, So I rejected and denied but tried to breathe and teach.... myself to beleive but got sweaped by the heaps of grief, Indeed this life isn't what it seems it means, It's relation's conditional - like of sleep and dreams, so to speak.. i mean.. fuck it and my staggering voice, n' selfdestructive destiny like those of gambling boys, This pain managed to destroy... the scars shattered my frame, Having this stain, my pieces were scattered and maimed, n' all the droplets of rain and eye strucking greenery, all the glitter seems nothing but a hill of beans to me, I desperately tried to find those fucking dreams to see, But screams and pleas were all I found through those gutted sceneries, It's been years now, daddy says he wants me to breathe, Mum wants to beleive her daughter's forgotten the grief, But I'm often so weak that I can't holler or speak, I sit in sorrow and seek our society's moral beliefs.. It's so hollow and deep that it swallowed my pride, shame follows and strikes.. i couldn't dodge it or hide, I tried to torch in some light but hopes were burried and lost, i'm that fucking exhausted.. my thoughts are rubbled and tossed, I wish that dad was home.. it was always the wealth, who the fuck leaves an 8 years old all by herself? so when they broke in, the day my fate was written in scrolls, they raped and riddled me whole with their filth n' my soul.... was left to shiver in cold so I slithered and rolled, maybe blithered a little like I was living a whore, but who the fuck knows the fuck an 8 years old can think, the curtains rolled when i got old and was told of the stink... the facts I got to hold and cope with as long as i live n' it haunted and tricked me into wanting to slit... my motherfucking wrists... damn! I've embraced all the frost but these stains that I've got, my eyes cant capture the life when I'm enslaved by my thoughts, Edited by The Law - 05 April 2017 at 2:52am |
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The Law
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Posted: 05 April 2017 at 2:31am |
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Battler 25 It was rough before that accident hit Her grandmother and I were practically split Separate mattresses and acrimonious fits I wish she were here tho thats my tragic regret Happened April the 10th, but May I repent? I loved Lucy, but who we became was estranged Tension was inflamed, several questions had remained Yet I stayed faithful dilligent and gentlemen-esque perse She would only tear me down just the same, ashamed I rang a couples therapist to prepare for this day The showers flooded the windshield at rapid speeds Sam Cooke relieved, the silence at behest of me I felt the bitter cold from that passenger seat She muttered "you never cared about me" angerily I'm slowing, steering wheel frozen, shes yanking my sleeve I havn't spoken since we hit that embankment Dr's says it alzheimers, caused by the event, I take meds I pretend to be brain dead, occasional tears escape and Thats when they say that there's hope one day ill awaken Until then, I just watch my granddaughter be a thespian She knew I loved bird watching, she plays in my old cage The butterflies it brings me, couldnt be tamed with rolaids Her mother still blames me, rarely ever shows face This is where i'll die, quiet as the night Lucy's soul aged Edited by The Law - 05 April 2017 at 2:52am |
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Amgin
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Posted: 05 April 2017 at 3:54am |
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This vote has been accepted by a moderator. Battler 8.. Oh my god! The emotion you're able to extract from the reader is heavenly!! The story was amazing and fit the picture so well. Writing style was on point! Your transitions between lines was great and tight. No wasted words or space, your multis were smooth This is a piece of art that can teach. Lord knows I'll be studying this. If I was to quote anything I'd be copy pasting the whole thing so.. *refer to battler 8's whole post for examples of magic** Points for Rhyme scheme, ease of reading/flow, ability to progress storyline, story, and connection to picture Battler 25 It was a bit of a rough read, some lines had to be re read to decipher which word was the rhyming word. I felt the beginning started on track with the picture reference but then you lost me a bit in the middle until you tied the birdcage in again at the end. I feel the direct reference of the bird cage kinda took away from any mystique or magic you could of used. A little on the obvious side. If I could offer some advice, try lengthening some of your rhymes and adding more creativity to it, let the rhymes and flow marinade in the readers mind and bounce their tongue as they pronounce all the multis, "A good line will have 4 head nods" - Nigma MVGT BATTLER 8 |
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Exoduzt
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Posted: 05 April 2017 at 4:05am |
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This vote has been accepted by a moderator. Battler 8: Opening 2 bars were a nice introduction. It reflected the picture well. Mechanics were straight. I really liked how you flowed that second bar. The reflection is a lie was nice. I was also feeling how you carried the rhyme scheme over to the next line. I really enjoyed that. The gambling boys part was a bit of a stretch on the wordplay in my opinion. Seemed a bit forced. You ended the section really nicely. I liked the eye strucking greenery line. It painted a vivd image for me. From dreams to see to the ending line I loved it. Mechanics were almost flawless. Mum wants to beleive her daughter's forgotten the grief, But I'm often so weak that I can't holler or speak, I sit in sorrow and seek our society's moral beliefs..:--- This was pretty descriptive. Getting more into whats really happening. Pushing the story along. I also liked how you introduced the girl question humanity basically and people morals. Nice section here. "I wish that dad was home.. it was always the wealth, who the fuck leaves an 8 years old all by herself? so when they broke in, the day my fate was written in scrolls, they raped and riddled me whole with their filth n' my soul...."---Ok this is what I'm talking about. Father was all about his work and abandoned his child. Thinking nothing bad could ever happen . I also liked how you introduced the girl questiong humanity basically and peoples morals. Nice section here. Your next couple of lines were ok I thought the living a whore was a bit of a stretch for the flow. Your closer was pretty cool. Very morbid but you did a great job describing it. This was a cool verse I think you had a good grasp of the picture and utilized it well. I would of really like to see more detail in this piece those. Just little thing you could have got more in depth about. but overall nice piece. Battler 25: Opening section was flawless with the flow. Great wording and I like the way you basically just opened up the story. The May line was cool but I've seen different spins on that type of May wordplay. The next 2 sections you gradually are progressing the story pretty well. The squabbling couple seems like they might have secrets? Nice build up none the less. I like how you went into detail with the rain hitting the windshield. Also how you described the passenger as bitter cold. That was really dope. You finished off the section on a cliff hanger which is cool. I know as the reader shit is about to go down. The final 2 sections WOW!. Great fucking ending. I was wondering the whole time where you were gonna finally tie the picture in. I mean metaphorically it all makes sense. Nice touch on the rolaids part. The memory loss and the mother hating you. Dark story. Great story. The flow was a bit off for me in these section in just a few lines. Overall really nice execution. Thought out this whole drop you were able to paint a clear crazy picture in my head. Like the passenger grabbing the steering wheel. This was great work. This is a tough battle. 2 Great stories and 2 completely different styles. When it come to flow I would have to go with battler 8. It's more my type of style with the whole scheme. When it comes to the story aspect I have to go with number 25. H/she really shined in that part. You both took the picture and ran with it and did your own things. Damn this is a tough one. But this time the story outweighs the mechanics. This isn't how I always lean either sometimes its the other way around but. MVGT: Battler 25 |
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Crimson Juice
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Posted: 05 April 2017 at 11:25am |
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This vote has been accepted by a moderator. Battler 8 This life is sixes and sevens, it depicts noone's heaven, It has been messing my essence - asfixiating my presence, I was given the impression this life's a blessing till you die, It reflects the beauty - but then refelections are a lie, So I rejected and denied but tried to breathe and teach.... myself to beleive but got sweaped by the heaps of grief, Indeed this life isn't what it seems it means, It's relation's conditional - like of sleep and dreams, so to speak.. i mean.. fuck it and my staggering voice, n' selfdestructive destiny like those of gambling boys, This pain managed to destroy... the scars shattered my frame, Having this stain, my pieces were scattered and maimed, n' all the droplets of rain and eye strucking greenery, all the glitter seems nothing but a hill of beans to me, I desperately tried to find those fucking dreams to see, But screams and pleas were all I found through those gutted sceneries, (yeah I'm liking the poetic vibe here,the similes in this segment were nice and subtle, and because they weren't elaborate they didn't break the flow on reading,it also had a sombre feel running along side too,the word placements were good here made the tempo feel real natural and smooth,it gave this piece an innocents really,you also had in parts some nice inners popping off too,which also helped tick this along,i'm enjoying this light and breezy segment as of yet, nice start..) It's been years now, daddy says he wants me to breathe, Mum wants to beleive her daughter's forgotten the grief, But I'm often so weak that I can't holler or speak, I sit in sorrow and seek our society's moral beliefs.. It's so hollow and deep that it swallowed my pride, shame follows and strikes.. i couldn't dodge it or hide, I tried to torch in some light but hopes were burried and lost, i'm that fucking exhausted.. my thoughts are rubbled and tossed, I wish that dad was home.. it was always the wealth, who the fuck leaves an 8 years old all by herself? so when they broke in, the day my fate was written in scrolls, they raped and riddled me whole with their filth n' my soul.... was left to shiver in cold so I slithered and rolled, maybe blithered a little like I was living a whore, but who the fuck knows the fuck an 8 years old can think, the curtains rolled when i got old and was told of the stink... the facts I got to hold and cope with as long as i live n' it haunted and tricked me into wanting to slit... my motherfucking wrists... damn! I've embraced all the frost but these stains that I've got, my eyes cant capture the life when I'm enslaved by my thoughts, (well the mood was broken in this segment,it began to be less serene,the flow is still ticking well too,but the innocents had now been replaced with a forced tainted and hurt prospective,the victim after the attack is left to deal with the emotional scars,i liked the wording in this segment,from dealing with this from a societies view point and beliefs,to the girl trying to rationalise her thoughts and emotions,this piece had some nice flashes of emotion within,due to subtle details provided,it also projected a clear picture whilst reading too,all in all a good read here..) Battler 25 It was rough before that accident hit Her grandmother and I were practically split Separate mattresses and acrimonious fits I wish she were here tho thats my tragic regret Happened April the 10th, but May I repent? I loved Lucy, but who we became was estranged Tension was inflamed, several questions had remained Yet I stayed faithful dilligent and gentlemen-esque perse She would only tear me down just the same, ashamed I rang a couples therapist to prepare for this day (I do like the way you opened here,straight in with a back story like time is of the essence,plus it adds weight to this segment via the details,like when you describe the guy still trying to keep his stature when shits crumbling around him,damn he's even tried to get things back on track via professional help therapist,good opening segment here..) The showers flooded the windshield at rapid speeds Sam Cooke relieved, the silence at behest of me I felt the bitter cold from that passenger seat She muttered "you never cared about me" angerily I'm slowing, steering wheel frozen, shes yanking my sleeve I havn't spoken since we hit that embankment Dr's says it alzheimers, caused by the event, I take meds I pretend to be brain dead, occasional tears escape and Thats when they say that there's hope one day ill awaken Until then, I just watch my granddaughter be a thespian She knew I loved bird watching, she plays in my old cage The butterflies it brings me, couldnt be tamed with rolaids Her mother still blames me, rarely ever shows face This is where i'll die, quiet as the night Lucy's soul aged (liking the depiction here,windshield bombarded by rain,radio playing 60'soul songs, that in turn keeps the mood from spiralling,but they still end up in an accident caused by being preoccupied with quarrelling in hazardous conditions,and now he is a shell of the man he once was,on the plus side,he has learnt to use this condition as a tool, I get the feeling of being trapped via the details here,the sitting there watching he's granddaughter playing as if an act on stage,I liked the abstracted contents this piece is delivering,you've done well to keep it all quaint and believable,nice verse..) Overall a hard one to call this,I liked both offerings here,Battler 8 had flow and similes mixed with a tragic event working,and Battler 25 had a direct approach and imagery blended with a warming tale,after reading both verses twice,I'm going to go with Battler 8,here's why,although 25 had an enduring tale,Battler 8 had an in the face scenario coupled with some decent similes,i just felt he displayed the better emotion on the whole,and for me felt grittier,props to both here,as both were enjoyable.. Vote...Battler 8..peace. |
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iLL ScriptureZ
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Posted: 05 April 2017 at 2:22pm |
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This vote has been accepted by a moderator. This was tough for me to be quite honest. Battler 8: You clearly wrote more than your opposition. It started off very elegant and then "fucking" and "fuck it" came out of nowhere. It put an aggression on the piece that originally wasn't felt and for how I was conceptualizing, was unneeded. There were some wording issues, I too, have these issues from time to time. Less is always more in my opinion, in most cases. The rhymes were good, you were consistent there, however the whole concept, took a turn, for the worse, on two accounts. One in literal sense of the story and the other being the way it turned. It was odd to me, and I cannot really put my finger on it. That the first two parts, although vaguely, point to something happening to the daughter, the roughness was unexpected. Am I misinterpreting that these are thoughts of an 8 year old from the terrible things that happened? I'm just not sure I can grasp that hard switch. I apologize if I am wrong. Kind of ironic that this is coming from a "horror head" but I really couldn't grasp your concept with the picture. Battler 25: As stated above you wrote significantly less than your opponent. However, I think your piece gives that little something extra in relation to the concept and picture. Technically wise, I thought your verse was really nice. The cadence and wording seemed effortless/seamless. From your opening line, your drew the reader in. I absolutely loved the "passenger seat" line. It is no question the best line of both verses. It really brings not only an image to the mind, but an emotional tie. That struck a chord. Your concept was done really really well. I really don't have much to offer other than that. Vote: Battler 25
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daydizzle89
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Posted: 05 April 2017 at 2:31pm |
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This vote has been accepted by a moderator. First segment - The opening few lines really felt forced. You have an understanding of writing obviously but the second line didnt flow well with the first. Line 3-4 were nicely writting. A nice simple set of internals and a end flow was nice. As im reading, the verse is a rollercoaster. You have a bar and two that hit stride and then a single word will throw the transitioning bars off. The content is was ok. I think you arent captioning the emotions and progression is a little off. This verse is pretty simple but you have an ok grasp on this. Second segment - That opener was nice. Story and content is starting to reel me in. Your schemes bother the fuck outta me because i see soo much potention to make this more fluid and i feel like you are so close to nailing it down. Not bad segment here though. I do like the slant. They work for the most part and im feeling some more emotional presence. Not bad. Third segment - Finally striding it seems by this segment. Not bad. I really liked this portion of the verse for the most part. To end this feed. You had half of this Topical really hitting strides and the other half weighing it down. I think you needed to focus more on the story and the progression. This seems unfinished and rushed to a certain degree. I was hoping to read more progression and detail. I know her dad left and now she was all alone. I wish you maybe went into depth on on either the emotional aspect or took another route. Maybe going into the pain of digging a knife into your wrists. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Battler 25 1st segment - Very nice opener. Liked this scheme here. Flow was pretty nice with those multis. I'm already getting a little image of whats to come. 2nd segment - Wtf people. I was vibing with that first segment. Mid-segment.... You killed flow here. Not a clean kill. You still have the content moving forward at least. I am also not digging the five bar scheme. What you do is hurt the flow if you are not comfortable with writing. 3rd segment - OK, i like how the content is moving forward. Im enjoying the story so far. Its pretty coherent. I think this segment felt a little forced and you could have manipulated and took out some vocabulary. 4th segment - You got alzheimers because you got into a car accident? Ok ok ok, im not gonna be that guy that has to pick apart a fictional story. Maybe in that universe, thats how you get alzheimers. Thespian is a fancy word for Actor. Your daughter practices her drama class by your bedside. That is what im going with ok. 5th segment - OK, as your last segment. i feel like you really made am effort to progress the story and to keep it coherent. The story alone was pretty nice. I was able to imagine and picture the story in my head when i was reading this. Mechanics and flow can be worked on and i felt you were off a syllable or two almost every other bar. Overall - MVGT BATTLER 25. My vote goes to battler 25. The story was more persistant and i felt that he/she/hir/x/y/z had more control of the mechanics and progression of the story. I was able to imagine being that old hag of a lady. |
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The Law
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Posted: 10 April 2017 at 1:15pm |
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Battler 25 Wins 3-2
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