Battles under Review: Cain vs Packed

Explanations

He straight ass talking, nothing but lies in ya verse.  So lets ensure you die in the first.
My heater known to fry when it bursts,  to get "pack in a casket" like I was driving a hearse

Ya faction scarred so don't go "acting hard," i know ya missing the protection.
I fire slugs n more so if it's blood n gore? I'll leave "P on the wall" like pissing wit erections

I'm like Jason Voorhees when I use a blade to floor G, I'm machete crazy
So if this kid boast that this shits close, you'll see "the pack on the run" like Eddie Lacy!

Clown, I pop shots at this kitten, beat me? Ocks gotta be kidding. So like batman, I finish jokers.
Get unruly & push me? Na, you truly a pussy. Cain share that "pack a fag" like British smokers.

This "outsider going Hollywood," but this a "new world order" & I've gone n chalked him.
So if that doesn't "click?" Then you'll be down for the "1 2 3 kid when I x-Pac" like Sean waltman!

Cain - Firstly, your flow's decent  and rhyme schemes are tight throughout , good job. OK now I'll go punch by punch. Punch 1, the wordplay's ok but your set-up is filler, the "fry when it burst" is bringing nothing to the table but rhymes. Try and work on linking your set-ups to your punchlines in theme as it'll increase the overall delivery of the punchline. This lands, but it's a glancing blow. Punch 2, again whilst your rhyming skills are nice, your set-up is irrelevant to the theme of your punch, the "slugs n more, blood n gore" is a lovely internal multie, but it takes away from the direction of your punch, this  barely lands though and is little weird with "Pissing wit erections" why would you need an erection to piss up a wall? It's an ok idea, but because you were intent on using erection as your rhyme it lost direction. Punch 3  There's a common theme here, and you need to realise it. Again your set-up is irrelevant to your punch, your punch is good, but the "kid boast that this shits close" is there for the rhymes, it doesn't relate to him being on the run, why would you be on the run if you made a boast about how close it is? Punch 4 This one doesn't land, how is "sharing" him an insult? Wordplay alone does not  a punch make, this is a good example of that. Try and use the wordplay in a way that you're actually dissing him.  Punch 5 This was your best punch, set-up and punch link together, decent concept worded well, good rhymes. If the rest of your verse was like this punch couplet you'd've had a very good verse.

Packed - Flow's on but is boring as all shit, and there's very little rhyming ability on display. I know this is the style used on "text battle" forums, but on LA we have a history in the hiphop community, and most of our members have come from that background, we like flow, we like rhymes. As much as this style is great for punches, it gets little respect from the hiphop culture for it's lack of rap technique. I'm not hatin here btw, I'm just letting you know that a lot of people will mark you down for that if you come across someone with comparable punches - something to think about. Punch 1 This is ok, it lands. Not massively feeling the hurrican play tbh, I think you've got better in you, but it lands. Punch 2 This I like, direct, well worded (for the punch, not for rap) hits correct. Punch 3 This was weaker for one reason tbh, as a graffitti artist of over 16 years experience, most of us use "paint" rather than Ink. It still lands, but when I hear "Ink" in terms of art I think tattoo, not graffitti. Punch 4 This was your weakest one for me, the connection between the apple/tree and lawnmower is forced at best, and "obvious you got hit with the lawnmower" doesn't work to me,you're way better than this and you know it lol. Punch 5 Solid, great nameflip, lands correct.

 OK, if this was about rap ability Packed would've had his ass handed to him, but punches always take precedence in a straight up battle. If Cain's set-ups were better and he'd flipped his concepts more effectively he woulda taken this, as it stands Packed had a far more consistent verse in terms of raw punchlines.  I do have to say though Packed, as great as your punches are, I'm voting on a "rap battle" not a comedy roast, you might not like it but this is a hiphop site so you'll have to live with it, if you came across someone with punches as direct you would've had zero chance, as your actual rap technique is rudimentary at best, boring flow, basic rhymes, just be aware that this is a hiphop/rap forum, not a pure text battle site, and people will come at it from that angle. No hate intended, it's just obvious that you're from the text scene and not the rap scene, most of us here are the opposite, "know your audience" is always a good point to be made in a battle. Your punch technique is great.

My vote = Packed

2-zip

meh, i honestly thought this was one sided. Can brought some funny material but most of it was filler tbh. packs punches were way harder. his name flips were dope. cain i did like the pack on a run punch and the sean waltmen but your set ups need work to back up your punch.

Leets goo!

Cain

Bar 1» Set up lune was filler. The nameflip wasnt bad. On the simple side, but executed effectively. 5/10
Bar 2» Again, I'll point out the squandered set up. Not a big fan of single letter flips, they've always struck me as uncreative. But we all use them from time to time. And this was decent. 4.5/10
Bar 3» Set up was mild, but I enjoyed the Eddie Lacy flip. Twas slick. 6.5/10
Bar 4» Better set up. Leading with a jab. Which helped because the punch was just decent. 5.5/10
Bar 5» Ugh! This was a very well worded, complex flip. Great job setting it up and driving it home. 7/10



Pack

Bar 1» Filler set up. Punch concept was dope.. That wordplay could have been dope. But the wording of "that wants to get hurricane" feels extremely awkward. 4.5/10
Bar 2» Set up squandered. Punch was actually dope though. Very solid. 7/10
Bar 3» Not sure how relevant the personal is, but the wording was solid. I might be scoring this higher if I had some knowledge of their relationship. 5/10
Bar 4» I usually hit fast forward when I see "your mom" but this was funny. Digging the humorous approach. 6/10
Bar 5» Filler set up. Closer had maad potential, but like in the opener...The wording is very sloppy...4.5/19

Cane » 28.5
Pack » 27

Close battle. Both had some dope lines. I think both of you need to work on using your set up lines better. Both had some creative shit..but Pack stumbled on two of his better concepts. Couple that with the fact that Cane had the better flow, and I have to edge this to......

Vote » Cane

7-2 when does this close?