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    Posted: 28 February 2017 at 11:19pm
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Had a few goes at it this was probly the best of 'em.Ends about 1.50 ish, Mic check on the bed didn't work. Don't talk to me about the mixing i have no idea what i'm doing.








Since we last spoke

Sometimes i speak to demons i be preaching when i see 'em 
But they don't no heed no reason they just wanna see me bleeding
Tell me whats the meaning, tell me or i'm leaving
Tell me why the exit door is looking more appealing
Tell me is this heaven or A hell that got me fleeting
Am I listening to the devil or an angel caused these feelings
Tell me why I'll never fall, With ya'll to keep me breathing
Then tell me why I'm beggin yall to sell me four more seasons 
Tell me like ya mean it, when you tell me i'm worth something,
Sell me a memory, that could burst the numbness
Sell me a better dream, tell me that it's coming
Sell me the best of me Tell me please my brother
Tell me bout redemption yell me when it's coming 
If its to hell with me, still tell it me one hundred,
No need to act with me The only act you needs my cover
Thats the act i use to function, As I balance on the summit
Catching each bad string the saddest ever number,
I been casting all the summer trynna mask what i'm becoming
But i'm cracking as rupture self attacking inner structures
Self awareness got me smothered till i'm gasping in the gutter
Inner famine in a struggle, ain't no glamour to this hustle
No compassion for no others Now my passion is the slumber
It distract me from the damage so i actually recover 
It's a sanctuary then back to me to clamber through the rubble




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A very impressive entry/recording. I listened to the recording first before I read through the verse and it somewhat had a greater impact. Your voice really 'matched' the beat and content displayed, it was calm but also vibrant at the right parts, nicely delivering the layers of emotion. And this made it even better, overall. Your verse, on its own, was also really interesting. Loved the 'exit door' and 'inner famine' lines, outstanding one liners imo. Almost every line felt very genuine and relatable to a certain degree. The 'summit' line felt slightly repetitive content-wise, but that's only cos you delivered the central theme here pretty well in the preceding lines. As I said, I'm truly impressed by this. 

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Thanks a lot Alice. I've toyed with the idea of recording before but I wanted to embrace the challenge for this months kotm. Went out of my comfort zone a bit with this but glad you thought but came together well. It's a first for me this.

Apreciate the feed Alice.
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Aye Rut, first time hearing an audio from you.Glad you're stepping out of your comfort zone.I think you know about the mixing aspect but that just comes with practice. If I were you, I would send to someone on here to edit for you. It would make your entry that much harder. It's amazing what good mixing can do. Moving along to your flow and delivery. I thought that it felt very one line-ish. It was like one line, break, 2 line, break. I thought that you could've went with a more smooth/fluid approach there. It wasn't awful by any means, it reminded me of my first ever audio. Some may say you were reading. If you were or not it doesn't matter to me bc if your command that mean and your lyrics and are confident on the mic you really cannot tell the difference. Obviously if you're more comfortable with the words you can deliver it that much harder. But I read all my verses for the most part. The content was nice though, it seemed different that your normal writing style. I'd like to hear you with your regular style on a polished audio.
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Thanks for the constructive criticism scriptz,

I totally get the 1 line 2 line criticism. I was trynna make it easy on myself by leaving gaps for breath, and mirroring the lines a lot. I really tried to match my word placement to the beat but that also made it a bit gappy. I knew flow and delivery were gonna be the biggest hurdles. In the final third i switched it up with that endless multi to push myself a bit more. I don't write to beats, spit on beats or really write topicals so it was all a bit new. So i appreciate any feed.

As far as the mixing and reading bit. I recorded it a few weeks ago and was gonna send it someone but with it being so quiet wasn't sure who to ask, before i knew it, it was the 28th so i posted what i had. I can spit it without the lyrics in front of me now as i've listened to it like a 100 times lol, but back then i needed it in front of me.

Thanks again for the input though it's needed and helpful.


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nice job on this rut. a lot of us went in the same direction with this but it still doesn't come off overplayed since we all hit it in different directions. this was good had some nice transitional in there.
 
I really enjoyed these two parts
 
Tell me whats the meaning, tell me or i'm leaving
Tell me why the exit door is looking more appealing
 
and
 
Tell me why I'll never fall, With ya'll to keep me breathing
Then tell me why I'm beggin yall to sell me four more seasons
 
you ended your verse very nicely as well, the schemes were nice and your flow was spot on on most of the entire verse. there was a word missing or an extra one here and there but hardly.
 
audio/flow/delivery, this was good for your first time, and you recorded in one shot. you will find practicing your audio and finding the right speed n delivery as hard as writing.
 
you got in the pocket tho at the end of the audio
 
"what i'm becoming
But i'm cracking as rupture self attacking inner structures
Self awareness got me smothered till i'm gasping in the gutter
Inner famine in a struggle, ain't no glamour to this hustle
No compassion for no others Now my passion is the slumber
It distract me from the damage so i actually recover 
It's a sanctuary then back to me to clamber through the rubble"
 
 
that is how your whole audio shoulda sounded. it would have made it great.
what I have found to be useful is to record a demo, which would essentially be a version that is perfectly on beat and on pace, but the sound of delivery isn't perfect, but just recorded  quick (ON BEAT). once you do that, you just play that a bunch of times and spit it over the track. it will help you stay on beat, and if you stumble, it will help you get right back into the flow and pace. then re-record it when you are more comfortable with it, and replace the demo parts (or make a new audio). also ther are things you can do before recording to make you clearer and easier to understand (such as spitting your rap while biting down on a pencil).
 
I typically write to audio in 16 line verses, and write/record in quatrains (4 sets of 4 lines)
ill end up recording my audio in 4 parts as well. but when rcording ill record lines 1-5 and then start the next recording with lines 4-9. I record one extra line on the first part so that I can sync up my audio/ have time to spit and catchup to the beat. ill end up cutting most of the 5th line out but leave a little of it to fade out and blend the pieces together. then on the next section, cut out most of the fourth bar leave a tiny bit to phade, and do the same thing on the other end of it.
 
kinda sounds confusing, but its my method and works for me.
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Once again thanks for the feed and even braking it down. I've down loaded Audacity just need to familiarize myself more with it. Thanks for the kind words and tips. It feels bittersweet i'm kinda stoked with the feed but now i feel bad about all the mean things i'm bout to post about you in br3. 

Thanks though dude, appreciate it
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On The text side . . .
 
Quote Sometimes i speak to demons i be preaching when i see 'em
But they don't no heed no reason they just wanna see me bleeding
Tell me whats the meaning, tell me or i'm leaving
Tell me why the exit door is looking more appealing

 
Good intro here. Kicks it off nice
 
Quote Tell me is this heaven or A hell that got me fleeting

 
Did you mean ‘Fleeing’? At first I thought this was a typo, but on the audio it sounds like you are saying ‘fleeting’ as well. Different meanings. Fleeting don’t really make sense by definition in that line. . but ya know. .thats just me nit picking lol
 
Quote Am I listening to the devil or an angel caused these feelings
Tell me why I'll never fall, With ya'll to keep me breathing
Then tell me why I'm beggin yall to sell me four more seasons
Tell me like ya mean it, when you tell me i'm worth something,
Sell me a memory, that could burst the numbness
Sell me a better dream, tell me that it's coming
Sell me the best of me Tell me please my brother
Tell me bout redemption yell me when it's coming

 
I like the repetition of tell, sell. A lot of people look down on it. That’s usually how you can spot a pure text head from an audio head. Because repetition when used correctly can make lines buttery smooth in audio. The emotional aspect seems to be kicking up a notch here as well.
 
Quote If its to hell with me, still tell it me one hundred,

 
Awkwardly worded here
 
Quote No need to act with me The only act you needs my cover
Thats the act i use to function, As I balance on the summit
Catching each bad string the saddest ever number,
I been casting all the summer trynna mask what i'm becoming
But i'm cracking as rupture self attacking inner structures
Self awareness got me smothered till i'm gasping in the gutter

 
Seems like the technical aspect of your writing really kicked in at the end here. Much more complex in thought and cleaner multis
 
Quote Inner famine in a struggle, ain't no glamour to this hustle
No compassion for no others Now my passion is the slumber
It distract me from the damage so i actually recover
It's a sanctuary then back to me to clamber through the rubble

 
Yea man, this all ended and wrapped up nicely man
 
On the audio side.
 
The gaps between the words is not a bad thing as long as you are rhyming inside the down beat. For the most part, you did that, but you have to fill in the gaps between so it don’t sound broken. You either do this by adlibbing or adding a slight enough echo that it will pull through those gaps between the words and fill the dead air.
 
@:58, flow got pretty messy there man. I think it was the wording. Sometimes, you just have to go back and revise the wording so that you can transfer it onto audio better
 
@1:24, it seemed like you just got a hell of a lot more comfortable with the beat and started to sit down on your flow. It got much better at that point
 
So, yea man. This all equates to inexperience in recording. That first transition from audio to text is brutal. Until you start to smooth things out and get more comfortable behind the mic and learning all the little tricks and mixing techniques to make it sound good. Trust me, ive been recording for a year and I still suck at mixing and recording lol Just find a software you like. Invest in a decent mic, and keep recording. At some point, things will start to click and you will get better.
 
Now overall, the verse did a good job of demonstrating how the text translates to audio and works within the meter of the topic + audio. At the end of the day, that is the purpose of us putting this in audio form. Good entry here man.
 

I think you can go a long way with audio. .  so id like to see you keep at it man

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Once again thanks for going to lengths you did with the feed here. I really appreciate the tips and advice.

Yeh i think the fleeting line sounded good to me but your right it doesn't make sense lol should of went with fleeing maybe there. The feed backs been encouraging so i may just dip my toe in again.
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Yeah Rutter, this was dope.


First Audio and i think you did pretty damn good. I mean, lets put it this way, you make Barrybonds look like a fucking retard and hes doing this for years. I can see you easily becoming a threat on the mic if you keep up with it. There was a few hiccups but im not gonna bash you on your first audio drop. Its not like im a audiohea. Really impressed on the way this came out. The text doesnt to this justice. Props my friend. 
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Originally posted by daydizzle89 daydizzle89 wrote:

 I mean, lets put it this way, you make Barrybonds look like a fucking retard and hes doing this for years. 

lmfao this comment had me rolling. But I agree man for the first time on the mic I liked your delivery and thought you road the beat pretty well. I've gotten a few tips from people when I was doing the audio like SS and Neek, and learned a bit of how to mix it and fix some things from them. It just takes a little direction and practice when it comes to the more technical aspects. 

I'm really glad you and a few others stepped up to the challenge of the KOTM after rhet destroyed it. The lyrics you brought to the table in this definitely complemented the vibe and tone of the instrumental well. I haven't done enough audio to really give you many tips myself on it, but you did a great job. Reading back over the drop after I listened to the audio you can get the feel of the emotion behind some of the lines.

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Thanks Law and Dizz and everyone else again with the feed. I'm writing something else i wanna record, gone more for my usual style just need to find a time where everyone's out the house and get it done.


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Pretty interesting for a first drop. I think this is a clams casino beat but good choice nonetheless. The lyrics were smooth, the flow started off shaky but as time went i heard the confidence grow. The mixing could be better but that also comes with time unless you have someone to mix for you. I wonder if the notice the difference in writing in pockets of a beat versus writing a free falling open mic where you don't have to sacrifice words to your bars fit perfectly. Still I'll give credit where credit is due. 8/10 for this drop. The subject matter was interesting as well.
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Verse ends at 1:50 but accidental humour ensues shortly after lol. This drop awesome man, the flow you had going was natural and really aesthetically pleasing to my earballs. I mean eyeholes. I mean good shit man! Look forward to hearing more from you
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God bless Puetes for his audio mag otherwise, deadass, i wouldn't even have known Rut made an audio! Flow was smooth brutha. Content was dope as hell, which is to be expected. the only downside is the quality but u probably had a makeshift home set up so thats not ur fault. overall, pleasantly suprise, big homie!


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Originally posted by Sammy Sammy wrote:

God bless Puetes for his audio mag otherwise, deadass, i wouldn't even have known Rut made an audio! Flow was smooth brutha. Content was dope as hell, which is to be expected. the only downside is the quality but u probably had a makeshift home set up so thats not ur fault. overall, pleasantly suprise, big homie!


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lmao!! touche, u tomatoe molesting muhfucka!


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Appreciate the feed nig, sam n doom. Glad ya'll gave it a listen. Another ones coming soon.
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