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King Jehu 
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 Topic: A Bar? A Line?Posted: 04 December 2008 at 4:18am |
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I'll just put this here... I'll just link to here the next time someone is mistaken.
1 line of rap = 1 bar. with the most basic of beats imaginable: Kick, Snare, Kick snare = a bar or just count the beats... 1, 2, 3, 4. The kick drum might switch, but you almost always have a kick on 1 and 3 and a snare hit on the 2 and 4 Wait, disregard all that if you want. I know music theory and I'm right. Also, anything not in groups of 4 would be awkward and will mess up the flow at the end of the verse. A 14 bar verse will end and leave 2 empty bars before the hook, for example. and now, maybe sleep... |
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Posted: 04 December 2008 at 4:22am |
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He's right you know, until a rapper uses a beat in 7/4 or 6/8 or any other irregular/uncommon time signature. 1 bar = 1 line. The term "Bar" doesn't mean "2 lines" it refers to a period of time in a musical score. In 4/4 time (pretty much every hiphop/rap beat you'll ever hear) A count of 4 = 1 bar.
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Posted: 04 December 2008 at 5:28am |
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Yeah... Not to say you can't experiment... Eminem is one of the biggest names to fuck a round with verse length from time to time... It can often depend on the beat, if it cuts off at a certain point or somethin'...
What about a bit of Joell Ortiz's 'organised chaos'...hahaha |
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They just said that FUCKIN' with me They didn't mean it Nah . . . |
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Posted: 04 December 2008 at 4:23pm |
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Just wanna make my point
No doubt these guys are correct given there musical abilities! But most of the Mc's spit grime where I live and they do call a set up and a punch a bar!
I think langauges evolve words take on new meanings, when enough people say something wrong and still get there point across then it is no longer wrong? says who?
After all what's NICE about a decapitating head punch?
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Posted: 04 December 2008 at 4:33pm |
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It's the fact that it's a musical term, not a rap term. Irrespective of what genre or style you are writing/performing in, a "bar" is a musical term defined as - a period of time defined by a set number of beats in a given time. As most rap is written in 4/4 time, that means 1 bar = one line of rap, UNLESS you spit two lines at double-time (basically, you move twice as fast as the beat.) It isn't language, it isn't slang, it has nothing to do with what genre you're doing. A bar is a globally standard measurement/definition which pertains to music, specifically to music writtin in staff notation. It hasn't taken on a new meaning, just idiots don't understand what they're talking about because they don't realise that what they're doing is still music in base.
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Posted: 04 December 2008 at 5:01pm |
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Posted: 04 December 2008 at 5:11pm |
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De ja vu?
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Posted: 04 December 2008 at 5:12pm |
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Then this site is full ov idiots man because it's taken on a new meaning here, a quick look through the archives is all that's needed to prove this.
Musicaly I would not argue with you man! As I hold you in higher regard than anyone else on this site when it comes to music.That's just how that is in truths
But I reckon there is a margin for what I've said, regardless
Respect
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Posted: 04 December 2008 at 5:22pm |
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The site might be full of idiots, but that's not why
I used to think it was like that too, misled by the ones before me. Difference is that I corrected myself in light of new, accurate information Tangent: What would religion have been if everyone thought like that? |
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Posted: 04 December 2008 at 6:04pm |
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In reality, your correct and 99% of LA is wrong....but it's always been that way and probably always will
Though i do agree it'd be easier if people just said 'lines' though it's not that big a deal for me tbh |
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Posted: 04 December 2008 at 7:57pm |
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so u put 2 rhyme word in one line? and u call that bar.. jus making sure..
this car go so fast, it changes the time to past.. lol Edited by Rameez - 04 December 2008 at 7:57pm |
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Posted: 04 December 2008 at 8:19pm |
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rhyming twice in one bar/line is called internal rhyme...reason being that two bars should rhyme at the end (or any variation on internal rhyme patterns, depending on your rhyme scheme) to form kind of like a 'rhyming couplet' you get in poetry This is my first bar and this is ok
This is the next one, no it dont play Verses... This the first bar, I took it too far
This is the next one it is the best son ^^ Thats internal rhyme, you could have internally rhymed and then rhymed on the same sound for the second bar, like: This the first bar, I took it too far
This is the next one, it is on par Class is done |
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Posted: 04 December 2008 at 8:53pm |
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I see thanks for the info Cuba
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Posted: 07 February 2010 at 10:24am |
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I feel you Jehu.... I was seeing some folks around the site having problems wit dat concept. I aint knockin em tho cause some years ago my first time in the studio I was supposed to be droppin a 16 and i spit 32 and came out the booth they was like "uh u gotta shorten that stuff up" lol
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Posted: 07 February 2010 at 11:52am |
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Dude, I know you're trying to get involved, which is awesome, but this thread is over 2 years old. No need to post in it, really. We all know, that in real terms, 1 bar = 1 line, however, its widely accepted on pretty much every text site I've been on, that in text battles, 1 bar = 2 lines.
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Posted: 07 February 2010 at 11:55am |
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Look first off you muphuckas need to quit talkin to me like i'm some young ass nigga or somethin. I been rappin WAY before mosta you niggaz even started. I say what the fuck i want to. I didnt say shit to you so dont say shit to me ahite? An if you so worried about it being 2 yrs old then delete the muthafucka. Yall kill me . Think jus cause "Oh he's only been on THIS site for 2 days he's a newbie". I was on Lyrical Beatdown in 2000. I QUIT text/audio battling to do shows and make music to get paid. I jus saw this site and was like that might be cool, I aint did that in a while. So dont say shit else to me, really. Fuck out my face
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Posted: 07 February 2010 at 2:47pm |
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Wow, your macho iAttitude is awful. Really. Rameez causes more heat than you.
I'll address your points, though :
I'm not talking to you like you're a "young ass nigga". I was simply stating that the thread was 2 years old, and that everyone knows that in music, 1 bar = 1 line. Please don't ever think you're above anyone either. You're not. So you started "way back" in 2000. Seriously, who gives a shit? People started before you, people started after you, thats just how it is. And any length of time in the industry, doesn't make you hot. I'll also say what the fuck I want to. So don't tell me to "not say shit to you, ahite". That being said, I really cant see how you think what I said is me talking shit. But whatever. Why would I delete the thread for being 2 years old? You're also older than 2, does that mean I can delete you? You mentioned in 2 threads, (that I read) - that people need to learn 1 bar = 1 line. We already knew that. So we don't need some young ass nigga coming on here telling is this shit, ahite. You quit text / audio. Big deal. What you want, a fucking medal? I mean really, I couldn't give a shit if you never battle, or had 1,000,000 battles. You're still a little punk ass bitch with an attitude as big as his ego. Ultimately, you got rage issues... you got an inflated ego, and you think you're a cut above the rest. Let me tell you something, sunshine. You mean nothing to me. And nothing you've ever done means anything to me. I could give a shit if you been on the site 2 days, 2 minutes or 2 years. Curb the attitude, and get along.
Failing that, you could always get the fuck out my face. Ahite.
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I'm so fucking intelligent, half the time I don't even know what I'm saying... |
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Posted: 07 February 2010 at 3:31pm |
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Fucking mods.
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Posted: 07 February 2010 at 4:01pm |
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@nephertitties> lol eat a dick .... pussy
man i'm done dealin wit this rectum. look dont get mad cause this is the pinnacle of yo career. i know you love this stuff. so gon get ya rocks off lil guy in the lil forum section. it's better to get some pussy to get em off but hey i know this is ya thing.so you got the flo tiddies gon let me have it lol.
nephertiddies jus know he was talkin shit... lmao
its cool tiddies cause we know u'd get punched in the face if we was on da streets... u jus keep on poppin off behind ya lil keyboard lol u fuckin clown. lol he's hilarious. u work a best buy dontcha? lol
ps-how u gon talk shit living in a place called cake?? i mean really.... jus askin
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Posted: 07 February 2010 at 6:07pm |
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Honestly.... I don't know what to say to that. You're amazingly illiterate for a 28 year old. I bet you make your parents proud. As for best buy, we don't even have that in the UK. Regardless... what does money and women have to do with anything? You're 28 years old, you reosrt to name calling, "nephertiddies" - I mean, really?. REALLY? Are you not educated enough, to be able to actually insult me?
FWIW - I'd school you. In anything. Ever.
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