Monthly Awards: Awards - July 2014 |
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Scotty32
Site Owner Speaker of Wisdom & Truth Joined: 18 October 2003 Location: North West, UK Status: Offline Points: 10489 Text Rank: Unranked Stats: 3-4-0 Form: WLLWLL |
Topic: Awards - July 2014 Posted: 04 August 2014 at 8:19pm |
Last month with all the changes going on, I felt it was best to change the format for the monthly awards such as MC of the Month and Open Mic of the Month, so I'll give a brief intro before I get into the winners. Intro As you are likely aware, previously the awards had a thread with nominations and the member base would vote for the winner for that month. Since voting, in general, is an issue on LA, this has been changed to a Judge Panel of 5 to keep things moving and allow for a wider range of awards. At the end of each month the judges will discuss in a private forum which they felt is the worthy winner for that month for all of the awards. The judges are evenly spread throughout the crews so there shouldn't be any bias. Current Judges
MC of the Month This Months Winner: The Law Open Mic of the Month Based on the discussions from the judges, this was a very hard month to decide, but in the end it came down to Exo's and Chain's. In the end they all decided on Exo's tourney verse. I've included some quotes below. Audio Mic of the Month This is an old award that lasted for 2 months with very poor voting before being scrapped from the history LA. But with the vast improvements in Audio on the site, Audio Mic of the Month is now it's back! Voter of the Month A new award to show recognition to people putting in the undesirable job of voting on battles. Winners show a consistency in both quality and frequency of their voting. Sign Off All of the above has been added to Hall of Fame and the respective people will get their badge under their username. Hopefully the format will adapt and improve over time as I threw this together based on the discussions from the judges. Next month there will hopefully better reasoning and quotes from the judges. I'd also like to add that that when ever any of the judges were nominated by other others, they either refrained from voting for their selves, nominated somebody else or excluded them selves completely from the judging when they became a clear winner. |
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Beans
Superior Member Joined: 12 October 2013 Location: MA Status: Offline Points: 6718 Crew: EMPIRE Text Rank: Unranked Stats: 95-24-5 Form: WWWWWW |
Posted: 04 August 2014 at 8:42pm |
true... not a bad start scotty. keep it up and we'll do our best to help
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Cuba
Senior Moderator Legendary Assassin Joined: 14 June 2004 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 12327 Text Rank: Unranked Stats: 47-22-0 Form: WWWWLW |
Posted: 04 August 2014 at 9:02pm |
I think it's an interesting way to change the awards and worth exploring. But, you shouldn't be able to receive an award if you're on the judging panel. I appreciate that people aren't voting for themselves, but it still undermines the credibility of it, especially when it's behind closed doors and not transparent. If you're a new member and you look at the awards and see the judges names all over the awards and honourable mentions it's just gonna be "smh"...
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nigerchu
Standard Member Joined: 27 April 2014 Status: Offline Points: 682 Crew: Hunger Games Text Rank: Unranked Stats: 3-6-0 Form: LLWLLL |
Posted: 04 August 2014 at 9:06pm |
Nice change Scotty. And Cuba does have an interesting point, but if you're here at least the month this awards are given, you notice that the people that were chosen, deserve it.
Congrats to all of the winners, especially Law.
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Trizzy Tre
Superior Member Joined: 28 March 2013 Status: Offline Points: 5101 Crew: EMPIRE Text Rank: Unranked Stats: 30-7-1 Form: WLWLWW |
Posted: 04 August 2014 at 9:11pm |
Props on this man. I think its a good idea. |
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Shankley
Superior Member Joined: 03 September 2013 Location: Leeds, England Status: Offline Points: 3369 Crew: Kratos Kind Text Rank: Unranked Stats: 37-43-1 Form: WNLWWL |
Posted: 04 August 2014 at 9:12pm |
Agreed I'm not saying there is any 'skullduggery' but there will be some people like "Hey these cats are just going for themselves" but the winners are well deserved. And that verse from Exo in the final was out of this world good, there would be 'shenanigans' if he didn't win. * Thumbs up for anyone who gets the 'shenanigans' reference. Edited by Shankley - 04 August 2014 at 9:21pm |
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Point Blank
Superior Member Joined: 20 May 2005 Status: Offline Points: 7234 Text Rank: Unranked Stats: 92-27-5 Form: WWNWWN |
Posted: 04 August 2014 at 9:14pm |
Yea I agree with this really. What criteria are you using for say, MC of the month? With all due respect, why is Freeda getting an honorable mention for MC of the month when he (please correct me if I'm wrong) dropped one verse all month? Don't get me wrong, it was dope, and he gives a lot more feedback than the majority of people on the site, but on that evidence I'm assuming the criteria has changed and I think it'd be good for that to be revealed so that others can see what they have to do in order to be MC of the month or at least get an honorable mention. |
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Arthur
Veteran Joined: 23 August 2013 Location: London Status: Offline Points: 2310 Text Rank: #5 Stats: 36-7-0 Form: WWWWLL |
Posted: 04 August 2014 at 9:24pm |
thanks for this. having that mc of the month thing under my name was annoying as it was outdated.
good decisions. though 2 winners are on the panel lol. ok then. also. it's a travesty that CHAIN's verse was not open mic of the month. no offence whatsoever to exoduzt, his drop was dope. but that CHAIN verse was one of the best things i have ever read on this site.
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spume corrupt
Superior Member Joined: 27 April 2011 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 3162 Crew: Lyricist Inc. Text Rank: Unranked Stats: 20-7-1 Form: WLWLLL |
Posted: 04 August 2014 at 9:50pm |
Well done the winners
Kinda preferred the old way tbh |
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Exoduzt
Superior Member NaCl Joined: 08 April 2006 Location: Long Island Status: Offline Points: 5331 Crew: Elision Text Rank: Unranked Stats: 41-7-5 Form: WWWWWW |
Posted: 05 August 2014 at 2:43am |
in no way shape or form did I have any influence on me winning this month...just hope everyone is clear on that
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Jay Homicide
Standard Member Joined: 11 November 2009 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 1329 Text Rank: Unranked Stats: 9-3-0 Form: WWLWWW |
Posted: 05 August 2014 at 3:25am |
Have you ever considered splitting MC of the month into two awards:
MC of the Month - For the actual best writer of the month from a rhyme stand point. Member of the Month - For contributions etc. When you read the title MC of the Month you usually think that the person who gets the award was the months best rapper, which should be won regardless of how much feedback/tourny's they've set up/anything else that promotes activity on the site/anything else they've done. It just feels like there's a distinction between the two, one is based on ability and the other is based on putting in work. That's not a shot at Law either, since he is a good writer. Some months though you'll have someone who is the best writer losing out for not contributing in other areas, and also people who have contributed a lot missing out because their pen game isn't quite on point. Y'feel me? |
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Exoduzt
Superior Member NaCl Joined: 08 April 2006 Location: Long Island Status: Offline Points: 5331 Crew: Elision Text Rank: Unranked Stats: 41-7-5 Form: WWWWWW |
Posted: 05 August 2014 at 3:59am |
^^ thats what im saying
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Freeda5thDawg
Standard Member Joined: 19 June 2006 Status: Offline Points: 1324 Crew: Lyricist Inc. Text Rank: Unranked Stats: 5-1-0 Form: WWWLWW |
Posted: 05 August 2014 at 10:11am |
I'm sure we'll get to clarifying this next time. I surely don't feel like I deserve the honorable mention. How I agreed with Law getting it was based on his contributions and activity beyond just the "rap" side of things. I basically looked at it as "Member of the Month" rather than "MC" because that was part of the discussion. Considering how things turned out, I'm sure a decision will be made to either split or change the format because as you see in the quotes, it was about more than just being an "MC". Cuba...me, personally, would definitely prefer to be out of consideration for these. I enjoy more being able to just be a fan of everyone else's work and seeing them be rewarded for their contributions. But I feel everyone, including the judges (excluding me), all deserve to be eligible.
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Cuba
Senior Moderator Legendary Assassin Joined: 14 June 2004 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 12327 Text Rank: Unranked Stats: 47-22-0 Form: WWWWLW |
Posted: 05 August 2014 at 8:48pm |
Yeah to be clear I'm not saying any of you are shiesty characters...you know I respect your credibility, my point was more how it looks like from a less well informed perspective, with the self nomination & behind closed doors discussions that I'm sure would've been 100% above board.
Like I say, I think it's interesting because it basically guarantees you get regular awards which is a good thing...but, I also think you lose that element of the "was never gonna win an award but is a nod to be nominated" which I don't think we should underestimate With that in mind, how about something like a nominations thread every month...where judges ask for people's nominations and then go away and vote. If a judge is nominated then they can be considered for that category, if not, then they can't. Obviously judges can select different candidates...I.e. Nobody nominates Chain for MCOTM but judges think he is deserving winner. That way you lose the "bias" as the judge was nominated by someone else, but you keep everything else which is good about the system. Anyways, sorry for starting the debate in this thread! Congrats to the winners... |
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Nigma
Site Moderator Joined: 25 March 2013 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 4077 Crew: Elision |
Posted: 05 August 2014 at 9:34pm |
Props to everyone who put the work into this. Obviously a few kinks but thats to be expected with a new system. In the long run I feel this will be a much more accurate process. Congrats to the nominees, honorable mentions, and the winners
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JBrenn
Superior Member Joined: 03 May 2006 Status: Offline Points: 3754 Crew: Tha Syndicate Text Rank: Unranked Stats: 40-26-0 Form: WWLWWW |
Posted: 06 August 2014 at 8:08am |
Congrats to the winners!!
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Skep
Standard Member Joined: 08 July 2014 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 498 Crew: EMPIRE Text Rank: Unranked Stats: 1-1-0 Form: LW |
Posted: 06 August 2014 at 12:18pm |
I honestly think the audio is backwards. Ransom should have won it, one good song compared too how many??? It's about consistency, then picking the strongest one they dropped... Feeling it was a stronger audio than SS's - no hate, this ain't about no crew or empire... scratch all that, this is coming from someone who knows audio and enjoys hip hop... Feeling it was a stronger joint than Now I know, and cuba does have a point, from perspective, it looks like Ransom never even had a chance at winning it... My two cents, take it how you want.
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The Law
Site Moderator God of the Minions Joined: 15 June 2013 Status: Offline Points: 5504 Text Rank: Unranked Stats: 64-8-8 Form: LNWWWW |
Posted: 06 August 2014 at 12:28pm |
Calm down, kanye.
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Skep
Standard Member Joined: 08 July 2014 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 498 Crew: EMPIRE Text Rank: Unranked Stats: 1-1-0 Form: LW |
Posted: 06 August 2014 at 12:31pm |
Who me??? For giving my opinion??? An honest an legit one??? Kayne??? Sit down Law, for reals. It's honest truth, only one I disagreed with. Feeling it was a better track. Thicker sound, better quality, overall better, that's not taking away from SS at all. I never said strip him of it. I just gave an OPINION. #SuckADickLittleMan
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Scotty32
Site Owner Speaker of Wisdom & Truth Joined: 18 October 2003 Location: North West, UK Status: Offline Points: 10489 Text Rank: Unranked Stats: 3-4-0 Form: WLLWLL |
Posted: 06 August 2014 at 12:36pm |
Skep, Open Mic of the Month and Audio Mic of the Month are not awarded to a person but to a post.
The fact is, If all of these awards were voted on by the community as it historically has, we would get nowhere. Just check the patchy history for them all in Hall of Fame. Check the old voting threads to see a lack of interest by the community to be involved in these things. That is why a judging panel has been set up, so things can move faster without the inevitable lag of the community being forced to participate. The judges were picked to give a balanced and unbiased perspective to the panel. If you have any complaints about any of the judges, then you can contact me. As usual, attempts to help improve the site are being undermined by the community throwing in conspiracy theories and general complaining. You all need to start making up your minds about what you actually want from this site. You all want awards but you don't want to vote on winners, nor does it seem do you want a judging panel to pick them out for you. If this whiny and unproductive behaviour from the community in general doesn't die down, then you will find your selves losing the Hall of Fame, awards and belts along with future tournaments, events and battle leagues. |
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